v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

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Meinolf
KVRer
8 posts since 9 Oct, 2017

Post Sun Oct 14, 2018 11:25 am

Hi Attila!

I think my last post in this forum was a few months or maybe more than a year ago.
I did not stop using RC, but started working productively with RC after a short learning period.

Since I had some problems with the pictures in my last posts and I would like to share a lot of information today, I have created two PDF documents. I planned to add these as attachments to this post. But as it is not allowed to attach a PDF to a post I provide a download link in my private online space were the PDF documents can be downloaded:

https://c.1und1.de/@519797282799883844/ ... RWMbIJeaLA

Here in the post, I only provide the table of contents for both documents, so you can see what the PDF's contain.

The list is very long, it is the result of working with RC nearly on a daily basis (as my setup explains). I hope that some features can be implemented in RC and that my setup is interesting and helpful for other RC users.

PDF 1: My RC environment and workflow.pdf
1. Short review of my experience with RC
2. My Setup
3. Managing this setup
4. Audio Environment
5. Performance

PDF 2: RC errors and improvements.pdf
1 Errors (misunderstandings?) in RC 3.6b7
1.1 RC crashes
1.2 Generator length
1.3 Does RC transpose static key switches one octave down?
1.4 MIDI controllers disappear from Track window

2 Rapid composer improvements
2.1 Provide a button to hide the MIDI controller value sliders
2.2 Track comment field:
2.3 Set MIDI device and channel automatically
2.4 Timeline region improvements
2.5 Coloring of piano roll to visualize instrument playing range
2.6 Mid Import workflow improvement
2.7 Phrase editor and note editing improvement
2.8 Switching MIDI controller’s envelope mode
2.9 Send selected BPM in RC via MIDI control message
2.10 Tag selected instrument group in the select preset drop-down list box
2.11 Capability to set two articulations (key switches) for phrases

Many Thanks, Meinolf

crossovercable
KVRist
368 posts since 26 May, 2014

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:18 pm

The generator don't seem to be working right, I generated a bass, hitting generate don't change until you hit play/preview, it you regenerate while playing it won't change until you stop and the hit the play/preview agian.
And, if I solo a track the EZDrummer 2 track is still playing, if I preview phrase in composition with no tracks muted the EZDrummer 2 don't play. The EZD2 is set to player from it's midi track not notes on the RC drum track.
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crossovercable
KVRist
368 posts since 26 May, 2014

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:39 pm

Also: In the Generators, Use Bottom x Guitar Notes + Scale Notes (in range)
for use with Bass guitar.
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KVRAF
2853 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 1:17 am

Hello Meinolf,

it is nice to hear from you!
I appreciate your time spent on formatting all your suggestion in pdf files with screenshots!
Thanks for all the suggestions. I am going to address them in the coming days.

It seems I added a bug in v3.6b7 which crashed the dyads run. It worked well in v3.6b6 and it works well in the latest unreleased v3.6b8. I am not fully sure why it crashed but I fixed several bugs in v3.6b8.

About the keyswitch in the .rcINST files: they always use C4 as MIDI note 60. So you may need to transpose it by an octave when using another software that use C4 as note 48 or 72, for example.
Please note you can use a MIDI note number for the keyswitch, not just note names.
Unfortunately the MIDI standard does not include the naming of octaves, so different software use a different note for C4. In RapidComposer (as in most other music software) C4 is MIDI note 60 by default, but you can change this in the settings. However this setting does not apply to .rcINST files. If it would, that would be a problem: a user setting would change all your articulation keyswitches.

I am going to implement comments for tracks, 2 articulations for phrases, and your other suggestions. It also disturbs me when sliders and note names are overlapped. You can make the track headers wider, but the sliders also get wider, still covering the percussion assigned for notes. I'll try to do something about it.

Thanks!
Attila
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BluGenes
KVRist
339 posts since 15 May, 2017

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:26 am

I just noticed that if you have a large library of phrases and you first start RC, if you close RC while the phrases are loading, it continues the process anyways. It is like the thread didn't get the message that the program is closing..

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KVRAF
2853 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:28 am

A small improvement to avoid overlapping labels and sliders:

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KVRAF
2853 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:49 am

RapidComposer v3.6b8 is available!

Now all issues about regenerating/previewing phrases in the phrase inspector should be gone. Thanks for all the suggestions and bugs reported! :tu:

Changes:
  • [Strum Pattern Generator] various options added when clicking on a plectrum: Shift-click: delete all, Alt-click: toggle all, Ctrl-click: delete plectrum
  • Scales displayed that include all chord notes in the "Enter Chord From MIDI Keyboard" window
  • In suggestions scales are sorted as major/minor > harmonic/melodic major/minor > church modes > exotic scales
  • [Strum Pattern Generator] reversed direction of up-strum and down-strum arrows
  • [Strum Pattern Generator] crashing bug fixed
  • Bug fixes for chord naming of unknown chords (when chord not found in the chord library)
  • Fixed: phrase generators are inserted using the right length
  • Fixed: making the tracks wider will prevent sliders and labels from overlapping
  • Fixed a few issues introduced in previous beta about generating and previewing phrases
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KVRAF
2853 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 6:54 am

BluGenes wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:26 am
I just noticed that if you have a large library of phrases and you first start RC, if you close RC while the phrases are loading, it continues the process anyways. It is like the thread didn't get the message that the program is closing..
Yes, I know about this, but I did not expect anybody will realize it :hihi:
It will be fixed in the next update...
Thanks,
Attila
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lulukom
KVRian
740 posts since 30 Nov, 2013

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:15 am

Hi Attila!
More thanks for the implementation of my request for the introduction of chords from the midi keyboard and the visualization of possible scales !!! It's great !
Here is a report on a pair of crash when entering chords from the keyboard ())
I ask you not to forget to do "collect scales for one chord" too ...
And (if it is not too hard) to make an alphabetic decoding of scales and in the master track inspector!
Thank you very much !
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crossovercable
KVRist
368 posts since 26 May, 2014

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:32 pm

A thought, when your bored with nothing to do: Settings > Master Track Chord > Font
there's a lot of free chord fonts.

EDIT: Also the Recent Composition List is not up to date. if I list the Windows folder by date there are newer xxx.rcCOMP showing, the RC list is a few behind current.

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KVRAF
2853 posts since 9 Jan, 2010

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Tue Oct 16, 2018 1:56 am

lulukom wrote:
Mon Oct 15, 2018 9:15 am
Hi Attila!
More thanks for the implementation of my request for the introduction of chords from the midi keyboard and the visualization of possible scales !!! It's great !
Here is a report on a pair of crash when entering chords from the keyboard ())
I ask you not to forget to do "collect scales for one chord" too ...
And (if it is not too hard) to make an alphabetic decoding of scales and in the master track inspector!
Thank you very much !
Hi lulukom!
Can you help me with a hint? Which notes did you press on your keyboard before the crash? I can see that you enabled the 'chord override' option on the master track, and the crash occurred when a chord name was assigned to the pressed notes, but I could not find out which notes you held down.
Thank you!
Attila
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lulukom
KVRian
740 posts since 30 Nov, 2013

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:46 am

Hi Attila!
Unfortunately, I no longer remember what notes and chords I pressed on the keyboard and so far no more crashes occurred. If this happens again, I will definitely inform you. Thank .

lulukom
KVRian
740 posts since 30 Nov, 2013

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:58 am

Attila, here's a new crash when introducing a chord from the keyboard.
I pressed the chord E-G-G#-C.
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lulukom
KVRian
740 posts since 30 Nov, 2013

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:03 am

But these crashes only happen when 'chord override' from the midi keyboard.

lulukom
KVRian
740 posts since 30 Nov, 2013

Re: v3 Beta Feedback And Discussion (Bugs, Features, Suggestions)

Post Tue Oct 16, 2018 3:05 am

Another report on crash.
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