Bitwig

kyodeejay · Post by **kyodeejay** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:04 pm

Last time I checked the demo, one year ago, it doesn't but someone told me it was going to be implemented. Phantom copies are, clips that do reference to the same content, so if you modify one of them all the other phantom copies will be modified.

Ogopogo · Post by **Ogopogo** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 12:06 pm

Not yet

kyodeejay · Post by **kyodeejay** » Sat Jul 11, 2015 2:26 pm

Thanks for the reply, you saved me a lot of time of demoing

Dearly Deported · Post by **Dearly Deported** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 2:55 pm

This is my most desired feature. One of the main reasons I quit using Live.

I just hooe if its implemented, they do it the right way.

Regnas · Post by **Regnas** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:50 pm

Join the party:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 9&t=410897

Regnas · Post by **Regnas** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:52 pm

Dearly Deported wrote: I just hooe if its implemented, they do it the right way.

So there's a bad way of doing this?

xx JPRacer xx · Post by **xx JPRacer xx** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 3:59 pm

Ogopogo wrote:Not yet

Do you know if it's in 1.2?

Regnas · Post by **Regnas** » Sun Jul 12, 2015 4:45 pm

It's not in 1.2.

operator · Post by **operator** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:11 am

This is kind of similar... maybe it helps...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neUNqsGtEZs

Coockie1176ln · Post by **Coockie1176ln** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 10:13 am

operator wrote:This is kind of similar... maybe it helps...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neUNqsGtEZs

That is not the same fyi.

If you spread out and not have same clips close to eachother, you edit midi information in one and it will still be editied in the other even if they are not close together. Like linked clips. And no bitwig does not have it. Its sad because its so useful.

operator · Post by **operator** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 11:06 am

Coockie1176ln wrote:
operator wrote:This is kind of similar... maybe it helps...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neUNqsGtEZs
That is not the same fyi.

If you spread out and not have same clips close to eachother, you edit midi information in one and it will still be editied in the other even if they are not close together. Like linked clips. And no bitwig does not have it. Its sad because its so useful.

Please don´t missunderstand me, i said "kind a similar" that doesn´t mean "the same"

... only tried to give an alternative but maybe it helps anyway (in some kind of rare situations)

Coockie1176ln · Post by **Coockie1176ln** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 1:51 pm

operator wrote:
Coockie1176ln wrote:
operator wrote:This is kind of similar... maybe it helps...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neUNqsGtEZs
That is not the same fyi.

If you spread out and not have same clips close to eachother, you edit midi information in one and it will still be editied in the other even if they are not close together. Like linked clips. And no bitwig does not have it. Its sad because its so useful.
Please don´t missunderstand me, i said "kind a similar" that doesn´t mean "the same" ... only tried to give an alternative but maybe it helps anyway (in some kind of rare situations)

I just dont see whats similar about it . Since phantom copies do not excist the only choise is to future request. there is nothing that is similar about it in bitwig and there is no work around then just working a bit more for now

TeotiGraphix · Post by **TeotiGraphix** » Mon Jul 13, 2015 2:49 pm

Coockie1176ln wrote:
operator wrote:
Coockie1176ln wrote:
operator wrote:This is kind of similar... maybe it helps...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neUNqsGtEZs
That is not the same fyi.

If you spread out and not have same clips close to eachother, you edit midi information in one and it will still be editied in the other even if they are not close together. Like linked clips. And no bitwig does not have it. Its sad because its so useful.
Please don´t missunderstand me, i said "kind a similar" that doesn´t mean "the same" ... only tried to give an alternative but maybe it helps anyway (in some kind of rare situations)
I just dont see whats similar about it . Since phantom copies do not excist the only choise is to future request. there is nothing that is similar about it in bitwig and there is no work around then just working a bit more for now

I think "Clip Symbols" are a better description than phantom copies.

From a programming perspective, this isn't as trivial as you would think to implement. For one, you need some type of "Symbol editor/Symbol state" to drill into a real base clip to edit.

Depending on how Bitiwg has implemented clips, the actual references may exists and it might be easier since they have implemented this from the beginning.

Mike

kyodeejay · Post by **kyodeejay** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:20 pm

Hello, I'm coming back one year later. Do Bitwig already support Phantom/Reference clips? I cannot read one year of information

svervs · Post by **svervs** » Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:53 pm

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Does Bitwig support phantom copies?