P5 preset bank converter (beta)

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aaron aardvark
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1482 posts since 22 Jan, 2011 from near Los Angeles

Post Thu Dec 21, 2017 10:16 pm

Amram,
Assuming these are Repro-5 patches, I copied them into Repro-5's presets folder. Thank you, I will try them later.

Amram
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553 posts since 12 Jan, 2013 from Foolish Shepherd = God

Re: P5 preset bank converter (beta)

Post Thu Dec 21, 2017 11:36 pm

Amram wrote:I will upload the 3 factory libaries with the preset names , the factory libaries converved from Rev 3 from here:
http://users.telenet.be/prophet-5/Proph ... Sounds.htm

and the names of the presets from here:
http://www.synthmania.com/Prophet-5%20(Rev.3).htm

Thats will be good for the newbies .

file for fact2 attached , more will come.

Thanks to Urs and for his amazing brain.
add factory 1 with names of the presets without tags.
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EvilDragon
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17158 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Re: P5 preset bank converter (beta)

Post Fri Dec 22, 2017 12:23 am

That set was already done by u-he, it's in the factory patches...

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igorkrushch
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15 posts since 19 Dec, 2015 from New Zealand

Re: P5 preset bank converter (beta)

Post Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:37 am

Am I doing something wrong?! I successfully did the conversion, and added folder with converted .h2p files into folder with user presets for Repro-5, but when I run the synth, it does show those folders I've added, but says there are no presets there :(
I tried to download and copy presets converted by Amram, but still the same issue...

Interestingly, that was the issue with Repro.... it was showing folders without presets when I restarted the synth... which was a bit confusing. But when I restarted the DAW, the synth started showing presets :hyper:

Amram
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Post Sun Dec 24, 2017 1:01 am

Amram wrote:
Amram wrote:I will upload the 3 factory libaries with the preset names , the factory libaries converved from Rev 3 from here:
http://users.telenet.be/prophet-5/Proph ... Sounds.htm

and the names of the presets from here:
http://www.synthmania.com/Prophet-5%20(Rev.3).htm

Thats will be good for the newbies .

file for fact2 attached , more will come.

Thanks to Urs and for his amazing brain.
add factory 1 with names of the presets without tags.
Factory 3 , file attached.
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aaron aardvark
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1482 posts since 22 Jan, 2011 from near Los Angeles

Re: P5 preset bank converter (beta)

Post Mon Dec 25, 2017 3:22 pm

Amram,
I'm assuming "set3" is not something I already had; thank you! :)

HunterKiller
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Re: P5 preset bank converter (beta)

Post Tue Dec 26, 2017 12:52 am

Now if someone knowledgeable would make a NI Pro-53 to Repro-5 preset converter -> :love:
I've a TON of great Pro-53 presets.
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EvilDragon
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Post Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:04 am

Any Pro-53 presets that use highpass filter or its pretty flexible delay/chorus/flanger wouldn't work. :)

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Urs
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22661 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin

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Post Tue Dec 26, 2017 2:01 am

HunterKiller wrote:Now if someone knowledgeable would make a NI Pro-53 to Repro-5 preset converter -> :love:
I've a TON of great Pro-53 presets.
VST2 version sends MIDI dumps, no? - Just use the right host and MIDI Learn...

HunterKiller
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Post Mon Jan 15, 2018 12:04 am

Sorry Urs, I have no idea what you are suggesting. :bang:
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Urs
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Post Mon Jan 15, 2018 6:39 am

HunterKiller wrote:Sorry Urs, I have no idea what you are suggesting. :bang:
Take a host that lets one send MIDI from one VSTi to another. MIDI Learn Repro to the same CC mapping as Pro53. Dump Pro53 setting via MIDI CCs. Save preset on Repro.

IIRC Pro53 should allow for this workflow.

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EvilDragon
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Post Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:05 am

Yeah that's easy peasy in Reaper.

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Urs
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Post Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:08 am

EvilDragon wrote:Yeah that's easy peasy in Reaper.
Yep... have you tried it? How are the results?

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EvilDragon
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Post Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:33 am

Decent, but Freq knobs for oscillators have completely different scaling unfortunately (and obviously this is pretty important for a lot of patches). Pro-53 has +/-24 semitones on the Freq knob (and that's quantized to semitones, no in-between steps), and Osc B only has Fine tune (unipolar from 0 to +100 cents), Osc A doesn't. Is there anything we can do within Repro-1 to combat this? Like, some MIDI CC scaling and quantizing would come in handy (obviously I tried using the "semitones" mode, and it works, but still, Pro-53 covers twice the octave range of Repro-1's Freq knobs).

It's good that we can also MIDI learn the envelope invert on Tweaks page, that matches the Pro-53 invert button, and Pro-53's "Analog" knob can go to "Voice Detune", eheheh. Works great! (Just no highpass button, ehehe - but truthfully not sure how would that work with Repro, it would need to be a jumper, not a chip preset, so that all current filters get a HP mode, for it to match the MIDI dump from Pro-53...)

LFO frequency knob in host sync mode, Repro-1 has many more note values to sync to compared to Pro-53 (so again, different parameter scaling). Also velocity sensitivity is just an on-off button, not a knob. From the manual, it influences both filter and amp: "When engaged, velocity will vary the amplifer envelope by 90%, and the filter envelope by 70%." However, when I set Repro's velocity sensitivity trimpots to those values, I get a wildly different result, so scaling there is completely off...


Another really cool feature Pro-53 has is Env Trig (envelopes being retriggered at LFO rate). Think about it. :)
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EvilDragon
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Post Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:21 pm

Any comments on this humbly awesome detective work? :)

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