Hive2 feature request thread

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recursive one
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5646 posts since 7 Feb, 2013

Post Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:36 am

I'd love to have a vowel filter in the effects rack, a simple one with continous knobs for vowel, dry/wet and maybe a resonsance.

First, vowel filters are cool, second I think it would fit the Hive concept and aesthetics. I know that I can make vowels with two bandpass filters and there are some cool "talking" wavetables, but the main idea of having it as a separate effect after the oscilators and the main filters is the ability to modulate dry/wet.

As a sidenote, I hope the idea of integrating simple FM into Hive is not abandoned yet.
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claudedefaren
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Post Thu Apr 30, 2020 6:31 am

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david.beholder
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Post Fri May 01, 2020 12:01 pm

There should be Hive feature request thread to collect everything in one place. (Singing Radiorhead :singer: )
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aaron aardvark
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Post Sat May 02, 2020 11:38 pm

I like the vocal/vowel filter that resides in one of u-he's competitor's synth plug-ins, so I would like to hear u-he's take on that. Though I would prefer for u-he to work on Zebra 3.
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recursive one
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Post Mon May 04, 2020 4:28 am

david.beholder wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 12:01 pm
There should be Hive feature request thread to collect everything in one place.
Good idea!
Changed the thread title.
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enCiphered
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Post Mon May 04, 2020 4:29 am

Midi-Out for God´s sake!

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david.beholder
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Post Mon May 04, 2020 11:04 am

Envelopes separated from filter types. Envelopes with curve control.

Also FFS people, in 2020 "other product" instead of say "serum" or "spire" doesn't look smart as there is no shame mentioning by the name product with great and/or unique features.
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claudedefaren
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Post Mon May 04, 2020 7:30 pm

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Post Mon May 04, 2020 7:48 pm

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Viktor [TUC]
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500 posts since 18 May, 2007 from Berlin

Post Mon May 04, 2020 8:43 pm

claudedefaren wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 7:30 pm
You can hook it up, but it has 0 effect (same with LFO to Mod1 decay in fact). It would be nice to be able to do that
That works perfectly, are you sure you're doing it right? Just tried it myself. Same with Shape Sequencer to envelope decay, works nicely here.
Also, overdrive is a "soft clip" type distortion, which Hive already has - but maybe you refer to a very specific sound of a very specific unit?

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claudedefaren
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Post Mon May 04, 2020 9:03 pm

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Viktor [TUC]
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Post Mon May 04, 2020 9:24 pm

claudedefaren wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 9:03 pm
Not sure what "very specific unit" or "very specific sound" you're referring to, or why you're insinuating that I'm even referring to such a thing. Kind of a weird look if you ask me.
What I said was that Hive already has soft clip distortion, and overdrive is soft clip distortion.
Now since Hive's soft clip doesn't seem to be what you're looking for, I assume you have a different sound in mind when you mentioned overdrive.
Maybe that type of sound you know or have heard from a specific overdrive pedal or other overdrive effect plugin. I was hoping you'd tell us about what overdrive sound you look for specifically.
claudedefaren wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 9:03 pm
Try setting the Mod1 envelope's decay to 0, and route a shape sequencer to it. And of course raise the mod env parameter on the filter.
I'm getting nothing from that.
Yes that's correct, nothing can happen in that constellation. With decay at 0, the envelope snaps back down faster than the shape sequencer can have effect on it.
Set decay to maybe 20 or so, turn up the modulation amount in the modmatrix for the ShapeSeq->ModDecay modulation. Set ShapeSequencer A to One Shot and only select the first shape in lane A so that it only plays that first one. And set the time base to something fast, like 1/16 or 1/32. Now you can hear the effect more clearly. When you bend the curve of the first shape, you can hear how that curve bends the downward movement of the mod decay.

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Weasel-Boy
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308 posts since 12 May, 2004

Post Mon May 04, 2020 9:27 pm

I wouldn’t mind seeing Wavetable selection as a modulation target.
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claudedefaren
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Post Mon May 04, 2020 10:22 pm

The unshushable Coktor wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 9:24 pm
claudedefaren wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 9:03 pm
Not sure what "very specific unit" or "very specific sound" you're referring to, or why you're insinuating that I'm even referring to such a thing. Kind of a weird look if you ask me.
What I said was that Hive already has soft clip distortion, and overdrive is soft clip distortion.
Now since Hive's soft clip doesn't seem to be what you're looking for, I assume you have a different sound in mind when you mentioned overdrive.
Maybe that type of sound you know or have heard from a specific overdrive pedal or other overdrive effect plugin. I was hoping you'd tell us about what overdrive sound you look for specifically.
claudedefaren wrote:
Mon May 04, 2020 9:03 pm
Try setting the Mod1 envelope's decay to 0, and route a shape sequencer to it. And of course raise the mod env parameter on the filter.
I'm getting nothing from that.
Yes that's correct, nothing can happen in that constellation. With decay at 0, the envelope snaps back down faster than the shape sequencer can have effect on it.
Set decay to maybe 20 or so, turn up the modulation amount in the modmatrix for the ShapeSeq->ModDecay modulation. Set ShapeSequencer A to One Shot and only select the first shape in lane A so that it only plays that first one. And set the time base to something fast, like 1/16 or 1/32. Now you can hear the effect more clearly. When you bend the curve of the first shape, you can hear how that curve bends the downward movement of the mod decay.

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No, I just didn't realize that overdrive and soft clipping are the same thing. Scratch that one from my request list!

I guess what I thought was possible in modulating the Decay with a Shape was that I could effectively use the Shape in place of the Decay fader. I get better results (more control) from just modulating the filter itself with the shape, but then you can't get a full ADSR that way. Is it possible to effectively use the Shape in place of the Decay in the envelope's ADSR? Maybe I'm going about it with the wrong approach

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Howard
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4058 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany

Post Mon May 04, 2020 11:36 pm

You're probably better off adding sources instead e.g. envelope AND Shape both modulating cutoff or whatever. Certainly easier to handle that way!

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