A couple of questions to the community:
The KVR MC threads were inspired by various challenges over the net, most notably the Music Cafe "Song Cafe Challenge" (or SCC in short). As we're in a constant movement in terms of ideas and changes, we want to ask for some feedback on an idea that popped up recently.
With MC01, we tried the KVR own voting system, but two people did not cast three votes as originally intended. The main advantage was, that this was out of our hands, everyone could see the votes at an instant. The main disadvantage are the fact that "public votes" can influence others, it's limited to about 20-30 participants, and it takes a load of layout space.
With MC02, we adapted the "hidden vote" system from the OSC, since satYatunes is a regular there and offered to go a similar route. The system has the advantage that people won't influence each other. It also has an advantage over clearly declaring winners and making it simpler in terms of "ties". Another advantage is the fact that IF you voted, you don't need to write down "I voted" in the main thread anymore (in theory), but rather say "I don't want to win anything". The main disadvantages are the fact that this is extra work done through KVR's PM system, people might think we are not objective and manipulate the votes in private to our favor.
With MC03, we want to improve on that. Also due to the fact that satYatunes is moving.
Currently we're undecided internal. One out of three is "let's go back to KVR votes, but one vote per person" (see MC01), another one is like "I don't have to time to stem this", and another one is like "as long as it's working - but why not go the SCC route?!"
The "Song Cafe Challenge" route:
The SCC route is pretty similar to a lot of challenges across several communities. They use a similar points system (first place get's 10 points, second place get's 9 points, etc), but they don't do it hidden - they do that in public.
I see a couple of advantages in that:
a) users clearly indicate that they voted
b) no PM's involved and therefore taking some work off of our hands
c) since it's a public vote, people can cross-check if we did the right math
d) the thread can be used as both for voting and feedback on the songs
Personally I'd go that route. But we initiators of the MC would love to get more feedback on this from you.
1) Do you feel that the Submissions thread should be used for both Submissions and during the voting process for feedback and asking questions? If not, please state your reasons why?
2) Would you even further comment on the submissions thread? Is the information posted in there (documentation) suitable enough for you to learn new things?
3) What type of voting system would you see? (Votes through KVR's voting module, open votes, closed votes)
And most importantly:
Do you currently have fun while joining the MC?
We're doing this for the third month now, and it's still kind of ringing in my ears that the rules are too strict, that it's a "fun killer". Yet the MC02 saw new participants and they easily adapted to the rules and the concept. People even mentioned AFTER the last challenge (and the loudness normalization process, see the rules), that they will improve on their workflow. The so called "haters" didn't come back however.
Folks... we need feedback, we want your participation.
Please don't let this die out on us.
We're still looking for plugin sponsors. Month exclusive ones, or even "set" ones (one for every month). If you want to sponsor something, please get in touch with us.
We are also looking for new songs to mix. We still have 1-2 songs in the queue, but we'd love to have access to more vocal tracks, genres like HipHop, Electronic in general (especially: TripHop, DnB, Complextro), Orchestra material (with or without vocals), Rock/Metal. More vocal work in general (yes, even Acapella stuff is more than welcome and a great challenge!).
Spread the word, get in touch with us, discuss on Twitter (hashtag: #kvrmixchallenge ) and especially in here on KVR. Let's keep the mix challenge alive and interesting.