why aren't there any big pictures of t2 ?
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Yes,
Exactly why it's going to be awesome.
If I wanted it to look and feel like Sonar or Cubase, I would have switched sequencers.
Exactly why it's going to be awesome.
If I wanted it to look and feel like Sonar or Cubase, I would have switched sequencers.
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- KVRAF
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
um. well the screenshot I want to see is the midi editing screen. Thats what i want to see.
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- AcousticHippie
- 4769 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
yup that's the first thing I'll do to Tracktion...make some custom colorsets....Lunch Money wrote:I still prefer the original Tracktion colours, but it'll be cool to see how many Tracktioneers generate custom colour schemes for it!
Say...
Mully's a Tracktion user...
Greg
a BetabugsAudio and a MultreeDotCom scheme are a must
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- AcousticHippie
- 4769 posts since 12 Mar, 2003
you're kidding right???Warmonger wrote:better than Chasing Amy.
okay it wasn't his best film bit it was still a decent one... (no way it could reach clerks though)
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
thats what i posted ...rpc9943 wrote:um. well the screenshot I want to see is the midi editing screen. Thats what i want to see.
slainte
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- KVRist
- 230 posts since 25 Nov, 2004
What I hate to see in these screenshots is that the Volume/Pan and Level Meters still shrink as you add filters. I had hoped that they would have made those fixed-width (or at least an option to do so). I've almost talked myself into mixing in Tracktion, but usually my V/P and LM are so small, I can't really use them effectively.
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- KVRian
- 1112 posts since 17 Jul, 2003 from Kauai, HI
You know you can stretch the area they reside in--just a click and drag and it's all good again.
Tom
Tom
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Exactly. Once you're in the mixing phase, you don't necessarily need to see such a wide clip view, and you can just expand the filter area.
Not to mention a few other options, to wit:
1. Rendering to audio in a separate edit before mixing.
2. Re-routing audio to a separate set of tracks for mixing. Especially useful if you plan to mix using sub-groups
3. Since T2 will have a scalable interface, expanding across dual monitors (if you have a 2nd) which gives you that much more mixing area. Likely, you could put your whole filter section into one monitor.
Those, plus the most significant one already mentioned (simply re-sizing the filter area) gives enough options that the shrunken filter syndrome shouldn't be a hassle for anyone.
Greg
Not to mention a few other options, to wit:
1. Rendering to audio in a separate edit before mixing.
2. Re-routing audio to a separate set of tracks for mixing. Especially useful if you plan to mix using sub-groups
3. Since T2 will have a scalable interface, expanding across dual monitors (if you have a 2nd) which gives you that much more mixing area. Likely, you could put your whole filter section into one monitor.
Those, plus the most significant one already mentioned (simply re-sizing the filter area) gives enough options that the shrunken filter syndrome shouldn't be a hassle for anyone.
Greg
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- KVRist
- 230 posts since 25 Nov, 2004
Yes, agreed, these are good options. I've done the "expand the filter area" and "render to separate edit" ones.Lunch Money wrote:Exactly. Once you're in the mixing phase, you don't necessarily need to see such a wide clip view, and you can just expand the filter area.
Not to mention a few other options, to wit:
1. Rendering to audio in a separate edit before mixing.
2. Re-routing audio to a separate set of tracks for mixing. Especially useful if you plan to mix using sub-groups
3. Since T2 will have a scalable interface, expanding across dual monitors (if you have a 2nd) which gives you that much more mixing area. Likely, you could put your whole filter section into one monitor.
Those, plus the most significant one already mentioned (simply re-sizing the filter area) gives enough options that the shrunken filter syndrome shouldn't be a hassle for anyone.
Greg
Expanding the area is fine, but I like to play with different filters as I listen, and mix levels at the same time. It's an active process, I don't just say "time to mix" and do nothing but mix from then on. I try alot of different things before I'm happy, and during that, I may have alot of different filters lined up and enable/disable different ones, reorder, etc. during which time I need to adjust levels. This is the frickin' magic of Tracktion!
I love being able to do this kind of thing with VST's, and no other host I've tried allows the freedom T does in this. I just wish for fixed-size V/P and LM, I just don't think they should go from very wide when there's no other filters to tiny when there's a bunch.
Greg, can you explain #2 above to me at all? I keep hearing about mixing with subgroups in T (something I've done alot of in Cubase) and I still don't know how to do it. Up to now, I've mostly used T for simpler projects, so I haven't really had the need for mixing groups, but it'd be nice to know how.
Thanks for the replies.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
I guess I should have stated that fixed-size filters WOULD still be handy. I can't disagree about that one.
Regarding sub-groups: All you have to do is send your audio to another track. So-->
You have "Kick Drum", "Snare Drum", and "Cymbals" all on separate tracks. You figure to yourself that they're well enough mixed in relation to each other that you can 'group' them for adding any effects that would apply to all three.
You create a new track and call it "Drums Mix". Let's say it's on track 10.
Now, for your Kick, Snare, and Cymbals tracks, instead of outputting to default audio, output to track 10. Now, instead of going to your soundcard, it all goes to track 10 first. Add any sub-group effects to track 10 and now all of those tracks have the same effects, applied equally.
If track 10 has "audio" as its output, you'll now hear it all. OR, you can even end up sending group 10 to ANOTHER mix track. Maybe you have "Wood Block", "Shaker", and "Whistle" going to track 11, titled "Various Percussion".
Then, you could send "Drums Mix" and "Various Percussion" (tracks 10 and 11) to track 12, titled "All Drums together".
It's quite elegant in theory, though I have to confess a dirty little secret-- I haven't actually used sub-mixes yet in my own recordings. Should do some day.
Greg
Regarding sub-groups: All you have to do is send your audio to another track. So-->
You have "Kick Drum", "Snare Drum", and "Cymbals" all on separate tracks. You figure to yourself that they're well enough mixed in relation to each other that you can 'group' them for adding any effects that would apply to all three.
You create a new track and call it "Drums Mix". Let's say it's on track 10.
Now, for your Kick, Snare, and Cymbals tracks, instead of outputting to default audio, output to track 10. Now, instead of going to your soundcard, it all goes to track 10 first. Add any sub-group effects to track 10 and now all of those tracks have the same effects, applied equally.
If track 10 has "audio" as its output, you'll now hear it all. OR, you can even end up sending group 10 to ANOTHER mix track. Maybe you have "Wood Block", "Shaker", and "Whistle" going to track 11, titled "Various Percussion".
Then, you could send "Drums Mix" and "Various Percussion" (tracks 10 and 11) to track 12, titled "All Drums together".
It's quite elegant in theory, though I have to confess a dirty little secret-- I haven't actually used sub-mixes yet in my own recordings. Should do some day.
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
dealwithit wrote:usually my V/P and LM are so small, I can't really use them effectively.
My advice: R-click any Level Meter filter, and "select all other filters of this type".
Press delete.
You will now have more room for the stuff you actually need..
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- KVRist
- 263 posts since 12 Mar, 2004 from LA CA USA
Where is "select all other filters of this type?" All I find when I select the filter is the option to delete.platinumears wrote:dealwithit wrote:usually my V/P and LM are so small, I can't really use them effectively.
My advice: R-click any Level Meter filter, and "select all other filters of this type".
P
Thanks.
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
Right-click menu, not the properties.kL wrote:Where is "select all other filters of this type?" All I find when I select the filter is the option to delete.
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