To be hampered by the restrictions of slavish emulative affordances always struck me as a bad way to go with software. Using a modular software app, the concepts of inserts and sends are complete anachronism, as it all becomes just a bunch of simple routes and level adjustments (ie why would I want to be limited to 2 sends, when I could have dozens, hundred even).
Reductive elegance like that should be the goal of all software designers.
Funny enough, the most complicated stuff to use in energyXT is the sequencer module, which is conceptually closer to Cubase than anything else in its works.
How best to denigrate non-modular hosts?
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- KVRAF
- 8389 posts since 11 Apr, 2003 from back on the hillside again - but now with a garden!
I have a band splitter.
You tell the singer he sounds like a turtle on speed, and then just keep pushing the bass player.
Works every time..
DSP
You tell the singer he sounds like a turtle on speed, and then just keep pushing the bass player.
Works every time..
DSP
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2460 posts since 3 Oct, 2002 from SF CA USA NA Earth
I know I imprinted massively on Audiomulch because it was the first VST host I encountered, but it still seems to be to be incredibly intuitive and elegant in its audio routing.Lunch Money wrote:Doesn't get much more elegant! Anything else is a waste of screen space or an endlessly hidden collection of paramaters.
Its complete lack of MIDI sequencing and routing capability cripples it for most people's use, of course.
Don't do it my way.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2460 posts since 3 Oct, 2002 from SF CA USA NA Earth
Early prototype of Tiny Splitter is available. First stereo pair is lowpass, second stereo pair is highpass, third stereo pair is bandpass.shamann wrote:You are? Well bless your socks. Always wondered why there wasn't a VST bandsplitter.Borogove wrote:the 2-in-6-out three-frequency-band splitter plugin I'm currently developing
Don't forget to shag the drummer's girlfriend.I have a band splitter: You tell the singer he sounds like a turtle on speed, and then just keep pushing the bass player.
Don't do it my way.
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- KVRAF
- 25031 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
that's always a good ideaBorogove wrote: Don't forget to shag the drummer's girlfriend.
- just don't try to talk to them because they're usually even more stupid than their boyfriends 
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- KVRian
- 850 posts since 16 Jun, 2004
Hey, yeah! That's a...
Oh wait, I play drums...
Oh wait, I play drums...
Excuse all the blood.
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- KVRAF
- 3528 posts since 18 Apr, 2002 from British Columbia, Canada
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- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
"well, in a modular host, you can do this, but in a REAL host, you're in luck because you don't need to mess with that shit, you can start recording right now instead of dicking around drawing rubberbands between boxes."
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
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- KVRAF
- 3528 posts since 18 Apr, 2002 from British Columbia, Canada
that is a really simple argument to make. So simple, it has become the default argument of those that don't know anything about using Energy XT, or Tracktion.
It is nearly as simple as it is inacurate.
It's like, the best way to deal with the frightening idea that there are way too many wonderful options than my wee little brain can comprehend, is to just not have any options.
The fact is, anyone with even the most rudimentary experience with EnergyXT knows that you only get complex if you want to. So, you do simple until you find yourself thinking, 'I wonder what it would be like if I ....', and then instead of having to just settle for what someone else decided was the 'way it should be done'(an idea that seems narrow minded to say the least when dealing with a virtual studio environment)you can just DO it. Just like that, you cna 'dick around' and draw a line between two points (oh I get exhausted just thinking about such mind boggling complexity) and bang, you have another level of submixing, or a midi controlled envelope controling send level on that mixer, or countless other things. It is only as complex as you make it. You can even make it MORE simple than routing-impaired sequencers, if that's what you want to do.
It is nearly as simple as it is inacurate.
It's like, the best way to deal with the frightening idea that there are way too many wonderful options than my wee little brain can comprehend, is to just not have any options.
The fact is, anyone with even the most rudimentary experience with EnergyXT knows that you only get complex if you want to. So, you do simple until you find yourself thinking, 'I wonder what it would be like if I ....', and then instead of having to just settle for what someone else decided was the 'way it should be done'(an idea that seems narrow minded to say the least when dealing with a virtual studio environment)you can just DO it. Just like that, you cna 'dick around' and draw a line between two points (oh I get exhausted just thinking about such mind boggling complexity) and bang, you have another level of submixing, or a midi controlled envelope controling send level on that mixer, or countless other things. It is only as complex as you make it. You can even make it MORE simple than routing-impaired sequencers, if that's what you want to do.
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- KVRAF
- 4183 posts since 10 Oct, 2002 from Nashville, TN USA
I hope I'm not repeating anyone, but how about:
mudular
Mud is fairly icky.
mudular
Mud is fairly icky.
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- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
although I didn't name eXT at all. I still say that all that twiddling and hand wringing over "limitations" is all a bunch of BS. It's never stopped me from doing what I want.
The best way to denigrate REAL hosts is to compare them to half implemented, buggy, unstable, tinker toy modular hosts.
The best way to denigrate REAL hosts is to compare them to half implemented, buggy, unstable, tinker toy modular hosts.
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
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- KVRAF
- 25031 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Spoonboiler said it , I'll repeat it: this argument shows that you haven't got a clue what you are talking about...SJ_Digriz wrote:"well, in a modular host, you can do this, but in a REAL host, you're in luck because you don't need to mess with that shit, you can start recording right now instead of dicking around drawing rubberbands between boxes."
Is it time for me again to post an eXT-screenshot?
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- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
Nope, my ignorance is blissful.jens wrote:Spoonboiler said it , I'll repeat it: this argument shows that you haven't got a clue what you are talking about...
Is it time for me again to post an eXT-screenshot?
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
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- KVRAF
- 6097 posts since 5 Jul, 2001 from Just about .... there
Oh, and make sure you read the post fully. I didn't name eXT in the post. The eXT people came out of the worm holes to defend it though.jens wrote:Is it time for me again to post an eXT-screenshot?
Just because you don't play the rubberband game doesn't mean its not a totally unecessary obfuscation of the process of recording music.
If you have to ask, you can't afford the answer
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- KVRAF
- 2321 posts since 23 Mar, 2004 from Two lower than LS6
How best to denigrate a non-modular host?
Point and laugh at how pitiful they are.
You poor, poor people
Point and laugh at how pitiful they are.
You poor, poor people
Phil
"The fool who persists in his folly will become wise" - William Blake
*No more band for me* | **My Host**
"The fool who persists in his folly will become wise" - William Blake
*No more band for me* | **My Host**