Hello, my Colleagues,
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Edited Wednesday 3/9 at 4:40 p.m. CST -- Just a final note, then we can let this thread pass gracefully into history. This is your last chance to get this excellent VSTi at $20. The group buy ends this evening.
IMHO, if you mess with drums at all, no matter what else you use now, at this price you really, really want this thing in your arsenal. And it works gooood in Tracktion. -GreyLion-
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I honestly think that this is one of the best deals you'll get this year. We're all cheap and stingy, but $20 is ridiculous, and this is a genuinely likeable piece of software.
Just in case people in this forum haven't spotted it, there's a group buy going on now for Nusofting's DK+ Virtual Drums VSTi at this location on KVR:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 6adeb26e40
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Edit at 11 a.m. Tuesday, March 8. --- I think it's time to pile on, guys. Looks like they got enough sign-ups to drop the price to $20. The group buy has been extended through tomorrow.
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I've been testing it in Tracktion and am extremely pleased. I like most of the built-in drum kits, and it imports my LM4 kits quite nicely, with a few exceptions. Has a pretty good interface for constructing your own multi-velocity kits, also. The LM4 kit constructor that's free from Steinberg would probably work fine for this, too, though I haven't tried it yet.
It's also been perfectly stable for me, as well as easy on the CPU. This is on an XP machine, 1.4 GHz T-Bird, 512 MB RAM, Audiophile 2496.
Best of all, it feels easy and intuitive to use, but has some genuine power under the hood, including a very nice step sequencer (that supposedly exports to MIDI -- is disabled in the demo, but, considering the quality of what I've seen so far, I suspect it works fine).
I never could quite completely wrap my head around DR-008, though that will still be on call for work, but DK+ just feels Right somehow. Sorta what SR-202 could be like if it was pumped full of steroids. I can see it becoming the workhorse of choice for a lot of people.
It may or may not be that Perfect Drum Sampler that we all yearn for, but it's pretty damn good. And for $20, or even $35, an excellent deal.
Take care,
GreyLion
Last Day -- $20 now!!! -- Good drum VSTi -- DK+ Group Buy
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
I'll definitely check it out. Even for the ability to program rolls and flams (I think it can, no?) it might be worth the asking price, and you get a bunch of kits thrown in as a bonus!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3383 posts since 21 May, 2004 from Deep in the Heartlessness of Texas
I think it does do flams and rolls, but I haven't done much programming with it yet, and, frankly, am not much of a drum sequence programmer. (Yet.)
Proably the one weakness I see so far is that the 'how-to-do-this-cool-thing' part of the documentation is pretty skimpy. I've already thought of some interesting stuff to do wiht this VSTi that isn't mentioned in the docs, and I'm soooo not an expert.
But, here's a snip from the DK+ help page:
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On/Off, Velocity, Flam and Double stroke.
Clicking on a step button you can turn it on or off (sound or no sound).
When a step is on, click and drag (up or down) on it to adjust the level (MIDI velocity from 1 to 127).
You can also right click on an active steps several time,
in this way you can select one of the three play modes of the step:
1. red level : single trigger
2. yellow level : flam trigger*
3. blue level: double trigger**
*a flam is a double stroke where the first hit happens a little earlier than the second one which is on tempo.
**a double trigger is a double stroke where the legth of the step is evenly divided in two equal duration, so for example a 1/16 step will trigger two notes of 1/32 each. The two triggers have the same sound level (velocity). This it useful to create rolls quickly.
Sequencer On/Off
This switch in the bottom left corner allows to switch the sequencer on or off.
Step length
This is the duration of one step relative to the VST host tempo.
Step resolution: 32, 32T, 8T or 16 are possible. E.G. setting 32 means
that one pattern needs to be 32 steps long to fit a 4/4 bar as mesured in the VST host.
Swing control
The Swing knob in the bottom right corner provides the typical swing/shuffle groove control.
It shifts the time of every second octave when the step length is set to 16, or it shifts every second sixteenth of note when the step length is set to 32.
The swing control is disabled for 16T and 8T times division.
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Take care,
GreyLion
Proably the one weakness I see so far is that the 'how-to-do-this-cool-thing' part of the documentation is pretty skimpy. I've already thought of some interesting stuff to do wiht this VSTi that isn't mentioned in the docs, and I'm soooo not an expert.
But, here's a snip from the DK+ help page:
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On/Off, Velocity, Flam and Double stroke.
Clicking on a step button you can turn it on or off (sound or no sound).
When a step is on, click and drag (up or down) on it to adjust the level (MIDI velocity from 1 to 127).
You can also right click on an active steps several time,
in this way you can select one of the three play modes of the step:
1. red level : single trigger
2. yellow level : flam trigger*
3. blue level: double trigger**
*a flam is a double stroke where the first hit happens a little earlier than the second one which is on tempo.
**a double trigger is a double stroke where the legth of the step is evenly divided in two equal duration, so for example a 1/16 step will trigger two notes of 1/32 each. The two triggers have the same sound level (velocity). This it useful to create rolls quickly.
Sequencer On/Off
This switch in the bottom left corner allows to switch the sequencer on or off.
Step length
This is the duration of one step relative to the VST host tempo.
Step resolution: 32, 32T, 8T or 16 are possible. E.G. setting 32 means
that one pattern needs to be 32 steps long to fit a 4/4 bar as mesured in the VST host.
Swing control
The Swing knob in the bottom right corner provides the typical swing/shuffle groove control.
It shifts the time of every second octave when the step length is set to 16, or it shifts every second sixteenth of note when the step length is set to 32.
The swing control is disabled for 16T and 8T times division.
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Take care,
GreyLion
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- KVRist
- 56 posts since 6 Feb, 2005 from nj
that sure is cheap and i played with it a bit yesterday. very nice.i'll probably join the group buy later today....that jamstix is amazing..i've never seen it before and i'm also interested. but 85 for that is bit steep methinks. i'm new to all this vst drum madness. does anyone know if jamstix will work with dk+ drums? just wondering.
thanks for posting this info.
thanks for posting this info.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 3383 posts since 21 May, 2004 from Deep in the Heartlessness of Texas
Hey, Sean,
First time I'd heard of JamStix, also. Looks like it's still pre-release. (Folks can check it out at: http://www.rayzoon.com/ .) According to the developer, who posted in the DK+ group buy thread, they work fine together.
Like you, I think it's interesting, but costs more than I want to pay. In the last year or so we're all getting badly spoiled with really cheap, but good, software.
Remember when a decent sequencer cost $600? -- pre-Tracktion that is....
Take care,
GreyLion
First time I'd heard of JamStix, also. Looks like it's still pre-release. (Folks can check it out at: http://www.rayzoon.com/ .) According to the developer, who posted in the DK+ group buy thread, they work fine together.
Like you, I think it's interesting, but costs more than I want to pay. In the last year or so we're all getting badly spoiled with really cheap, but good, software.
Remember when a decent sequencer cost $600? -- pre-Tracktion that is....
Take care,
GreyLion
Last edited by GreyLion on Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:53 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRist
- 56 posts since 6 Feb, 2005 from nj
well word to the wise. they are likely to do a group buy of jamstix at some point in the year so i'll just wait because $$$ is limited!
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 07#1013507
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... 07#1013507
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
If it's only 9 to go, you can count me in for sure. I'm just not at my computer right now, but I'm definitely in.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
How did you post that then? Telepathy? Can you teach me how?Lunch Money wrote:I'm just not at my computer right now,
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
It's easy!-->
I'm not at MY computer right now.
Hence, I'm at someone else's.
Not one I feel comfortable doing such transactions on.
Greg
I'm not at MY computer right now.
Hence, I'm at someone else's.
Not one I feel comfortable doing such transactions on.Greg