I have no clue about Samplitude, but a friend of mine wants to get it because someone he worked with in Seattle had it but he is a nOOb and I don't think he needs to spend that much $$. He isn't into forums, so it's up to me to steer him straight. Can anyone compare T and Samplitude features so I can make a case for him to save $800? I do think he likes it because it has a 'mixer'. It looks complicated to me, but because I never have used it, I don't want to tell him to use something else just because I have no prior experience with it.
Thanks!
T2 vs Samplitude
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- KVRAF
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Looks exceedingly complicated to me... but if he's the kind of guy who likes to tinker and waste a lot of time just 'figuring stuff out' (hey, some people DO! I'm not being sarcastic!) he might enjoy it.
I understand it's also quite buggy right now.
The most important thing to consider before deciding on which one is:
What does he hope to accomplish with it?
Also, before any intelligent decision could be made, T2 will have to be released along with the full feature set, and some users who are able to make a comparison.
I understand it's also quite buggy right now.
The most important thing to consider before deciding on which one is:
What does he hope to accomplish with it?
Also, before any intelligent decision could be made, T2 will have to be released along with the full feature set, and some users who are able to make a comparison.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
1) buggy and 2) complicated are my main arguments now. But I get the impression he doesn't believe T to be a serious tool.
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
It's backed by Mackie. I'd have thought that counts for something, at least.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
As far as what he wants to do, multi-track recording, some midi. I think he wants to be the next Phil Spector (but without the murder rap). He's not a musician.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
I've never used Samplitude. 
If he says "Tracktion's not a serious app", you just say "Yes it is." If he's a noob, how can he argue?
Set him up with the demo.. if he feels "limited" by the time it starts hissing at him, let him waste his money!
If he says "Tracktion's not a serious app", you just say "Yes it is." If he's a noob, how can he argue?Set him up with the demo.. if he feels "limited" by the time it starts hissing at him, let him waste his money!
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
There are noobs and there are noobs. The worst ones are the ones that don't think they're noobs. The like that. He'll say S8 is way deeper (which may be true) and therefore more complicated. But he wasts to be a 'pro' so he should use 'pro' tools. Maybe he should try ProToolsplatinumears wrote:I've never used Samplitude.
Set him up with the demo.. if he feels "limited" by the time it starts hissing at him, let him waste his money!
Where's MT (is that the right guy?) He was going to upgrade to S8 and then discovered T, and did direct comparisons. Maybe he could give a good assessment.
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
If he is going to spend $800 on S8, he could get T2 and a Mackie MCU for not a great deal more.
He'd have high quality plugins inc (as far as we know) the SampleTank stuff and RMIV, and a nice 8 channel mixer surface - which is clearly more "pro" than doing things with a mouse.
He'd have high quality plugins inc (as far as we know) the SampleTank stuff and RMIV, and a nice 8 channel mixer surface - which is clearly more "pro" than doing things with a mouse.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 9096 posts since 5 Feb, 2004
I actually think he gets off spending more $$, endorphins or something.
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
in which case, he'd just looove a Mackie Control Universal, a Control C4, and a greatly upgraded PC.
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- KVRAF
- 1600 posts since 1 Apr, 2003 from Seattle, WA
In that order.valley wrote:in which case, he'd just looove a Mackie Control Universal, a Control C4, and a greatly upgraded PC.
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- KVRist
- 263 posts since 12 Mar, 2004 from LA CA USA
For a beginner to want to start with the most oblique, obtuse, over-complicated user interface in the world of DAWs is beyond silly. Samplitude is a powerful tool, to be sure, as are Logic and Nuendo. But why spend months learning a program that tries to do everything and emulate the archaic look and feel of hardware? Tracktion is absolutely a professional tool; I use it professionally everyday (and on every one of those days I have Vegas, Sonar, and Logic to choose from... okay, I mix in Vegas...). It has limitations, to be sure, but its strengths far outnumber its weaknesses.
(Oh, and Samplitude was the first native program I used on the PC.)
(Oh, and Samplitude was the first native program I used on the PC.)
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- KVRist
- 478 posts since 22 Nov, 2004 from Alexandria, VA
Well, it's hard to talk sense to some people. (Myself included!! lol...just bought a used copy of T1 so I could upgrade to T2 for cheaper...even though I told myself I don't really need to do it now...oh well...couldn't resist!)
Samp is supposed to be awesome sounding and awesome power, but it comes with a very steep learning curve--but I'm just restating what others have said.
The least you can do for your friend, is help him buy Samplitude at a better price (if you can't stop him from getting it....though really, if he wants to, why say no??): Buy Samp. 6.0 Producer version for $149 (here: http://www.jdsound.com/store/product1.a ... ct_ID=3367) and then upgrade to Samp. 8.0 for $400.
Another thing you might tell him to do is download the Samp. 8.0 demo and try it. That may convince him otherwise. Might personal approach would probably be to say, "yeah, you do need professional 'tools,' but first teach yourself what the hell your doing, get a simpler program that is nonetheless profession (i.e. T1 or T2), and then use that to step up." I think this is a wise path regardless. Samp. 8.0 will likely bury him.
Samp is supposed to be awesome sounding and awesome power, but it comes with a very steep learning curve--but I'm just restating what others have said.
The least you can do for your friend, is help him buy Samplitude at a better price (if you can't stop him from getting it....though really, if he wants to, why say no??): Buy Samp. 6.0 Producer version for $149 (here: http://www.jdsound.com/store/product1.a ... ct_ID=3367) and then upgrade to Samp. 8.0 for $400.
Another thing you might tell him to do is download the Samp. 8.0 demo and try it. That may convince him otherwise. Might personal approach would probably be to say, "yeah, you do need professional 'tools,' but first teach yourself what the hell your doing, get a simpler program that is nonetheless profession (i.e. T1 or T2), and then use that to step up." I think this is a wise path regardless. Samp. 8.0 will likely bury him.
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