KVR Audio

olafmol · Post by **olafmol** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 10:34 am

Joxer the Mighty wrote:
gizmo wrote: P.S.--Have you guys ever tried the Peff trick of routing left and right channels to two different faders in a Mixer? Changes everything...
YES! I always do it, makes a huge difference. I got the 3 update, but haven't had a chance to mess with it much. I wonder if Peff trick is still worth doing.

is this because of the panning-law of a stereo channel?

Olaf

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:05 am

When i was tryin this Peff technique i realise that sound is only louder. Nothing more. And this is logical because you have two channels at the same time. Try it yourself.

Just put one channel up and it is same as that two peff channels.

Warmonger · Post by **Warmonger** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:15 am

To be fair, peff never claimed it was doing anything other than an increase in loudness, due to the pan law.

Also, this technique is effectively rendered useless in 3.0, since there are now plenty of devices that can increase the gain: MClass Maximizer, Compressor, Scream4 (with Damage section disabled), and even the Malstrom can do the job.

handy · Post by **handy** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:56 am

I was a bit disappointed that you can't put a combinator within a combinator! Still the main reason I got bored with Reason was the lack of something exactly like a combinator to take the chore out of re-using multiple units, so I am pleased with the upgrade. I can't wait to see what smarter people than me come up with to share....

Germ777 · Post by **Germ777** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:27 pm

kmonkey wrote:What about sound quality??

All over the boards i see "reason 3.0 has better sound quality, better phase definition etc.etc.)

Can someone confirm this? Any examples?

Just plain bullshit.
I could go on about volume and what not and the perceived quality of sound at different gain levels but I don`t have time for this.
There is an analisys on the web about the sound quality of several sampler engines. FL is among the best. Reason is not even there!
The Germinator

gmstudio · Post by **gmstudio** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:36 pm

DHR53 wrote:Hey your from Cleve...Land!! I grew up in Bay Village!! Woo Hoo!! Great city, and full of memories for me...

I was born and raised in Fairview Park and now live in Shaker Heights. (Yes, moved from the West side to the East side...) Cleveland Rocks.

FaX · Post by **FaX** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:44 pm

Germ wrote:
kmonkey wrote:What about sound quality??

All over the boards i see "reason 3.0 has better sound quality, better phase definition etc.etc.)

Can someone confirm this? Any examples?
Just plain bullshit.
I could go on about volume and what not and the perceived quality of sound at different gain levels but I don`t have time for this.
There is an analisys on the web about the sound quality of several sampler engines. FL is among the best. Reason is not even there!
The Germinator

Yeah but Fruity Sucks ASS

...............

Germ777 · Post by **Germ777** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:58 pm

FaX wrote:
Germ wrote:
kmonkey wrote:What about sound quality??

All over the boards i see "reason 3.0 has better sound quality, better phase definition etc.etc.)

Can someone confirm this? Any examples?
Just plain bullshit.
I could go on about volume and what not and the perceived quality of sound at different gain levels but I don`t have time for this.
There is an analisys on the web about the sound quality of several sampler engines. FL is among the best. Reason is not even there!
The Germinator

Yeah but Fruity Sucks ASS ...............

And you suck C**K

gmstudio · Post by **gmstudio** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:05 pm

Germ wrote: There is an analisys on the web about the sound quality of several sampler engines. FL is among the best.

The web? THE web?

Well, if it's on the WEB, it must be true!

FaX · Post by **FaX** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:07 pm

Germ wrote:
And you suck C**K

Well yes that's been known too happen on the odd occassion

- still doesn't stop Fruity from sucking ass though now does it

.

quincy · Post by **quincy** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:08 pm

gmstudio wrote:
Germ wrote: There is an analisys on the web about the sound quality of several sampler engines. FL is among the best.

The web? THE web?

Well, if it's on the WEB, it must be true!

Mephit Blue · Post by **Mephit Blue** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 2:13 pm

olafmol wrote:
Joxer the Mighty wrote:
gizmo wrote: P.S.--Have you guys ever tried the Peff trick of routing left and right channels to two different faders in a Mixer? Changes everything...
YES! I always do it, makes a huge difference. I got the 3 update, but haven't had a chance to mess with it much. I wonder if Peff trick is still worth doing.
is this because of the panning-law of a stereo channel?

Olaf

No, in Reason, the props purposely lower the sound by 3db in the stereo channels to avoid having the entire song clip when all the channels are played together. Since our ears hear different frequencies at different volumes, it makes it appear to have a different quality.

D-Fusion · Post by **D-Fusion** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:41 pm

Germ wrote:
kmonkey wrote:What about sound quality??

All over the boards i see "reason 3.0 has better sound quality, better phase definition etc.etc.)

Can someone confirm this? Any examples?
Just plain bullshit.
I could go on about volume and what not and the perceived quality of sound at different gain levels but I don`t have time for this.
There is an analisys on the web about the sound quality of several sampler engines. FL is among the best. Reason is not even there!
The Germinator

I´m not sure if that was in reason 2.0 or 2.5 that test was made, but the sampler has been fixed in 3.0 he is asking about reviews in 3.0 not 2.0 or 2.5.

And yes the overall sound is much better in 3.0 than 2.5

Stupid American Pig · Post by **Stupid American Pig** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 3:52 pm

Who gives a shit?

People made tons of hit songs on an emu sp-1200 and that sounds like shit...

braj · Post by **braj** » Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:46 pm

S_A_P® wrote:Who gives a shit? People made tons of hit songs on an emu sp-1200 and that sounds like shit...

So true...

So is there any decent Reason 3.0 review??