will it be possible to move clips without losing it's offset
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 830 posts since 13 Oct, 2003
don't wanted to be rude, sorry. and i'm thankfull for suggestions, just that people keep saying "hey, what's your problem, it's soooo easy with this or that workaround..." made me a littlebit angry. sorry. i dislike the way some people ALLWAYS do like it's a gift that tracktion don't have these or that feature even if they know it MUST be in a professional sequenzer. don't we all want tracktion 2 to be better than cubase, logic, samplitude, and having a big userbase so the future of tracktion development is save ? for that some very important things are missing. so let's start complaining ALL for the most important features that really have to exist in a professional product so makie and jules must react. 1 year ago 10 people wanting something were enough today it seems 100 people are neccesary. (don't mean little gimmiks, just the basics)
i need a lunch break
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 830 posts since 13 Oct, 2003
btw. from a coders side implementation of an offsetsnap must be easy. just around one one if-then expression that looks if offsetsnap is enabled and one calculation that calculates the distance to the next snappoint at moving the clip. and if juce would be the problem than juce is crap 
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
It's not that we don't think it's useful or that we think Tracktion does EVERYTHING perfectly.
You say that suggestions pissed you off a bit, well the fact is that constant complaining makes ME a bit angry. "Mackie and Jules MUST react"? I think they're quite responsive and a simple polite suggestion will do it....
Besides, I don't care to play 'catch up' with Cubase anyways. I don't want a feature because 'a professional sequencer must have it', I want a feature because it's useful. In this case, it IS useful, and you're right to ask for it. But the game of comparisons is a losing one. Cubase users also ask for features that Tracktion has. Yet you don't hear them say, "Dragging and dropping to change the order of my plug-ins is really a MUST if Cubase is to be seen as a professional sequencer." They just want it because it makes sense.
Ya know?
Greg
You say that suggestions pissed you off a bit, well the fact is that constant complaining makes ME a bit angry. "Mackie and Jules MUST react"? I think they're quite responsive and a simple polite suggestion will do it....
Besides, I don't care to play 'catch up' with Cubase anyways. I don't want a feature because 'a professional sequencer must have it', I want a feature because it's useful. In this case, it IS useful, and you're right to ask for it. But the game of comparisons is a losing one. Cubase users also ask for features that Tracktion has. Yet you don't hear them say, "Dragging and dropping to change the order of my plug-ins is really a MUST if Cubase is to be seen as a professional sequencer." They just want it because it makes sense.
Ya know?
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 830 posts since 13 Oct, 2003
i haven't said that suggestions are pissing me off !! read what i've wrote, people like you are pissing me off a little bit. the fact that t1 has many good ways of handeling things made it my favorite sequenzer, but you are wrong when you say, a simple polite suggestion will do it. that was over a year ago things worked that way. wake up greg. stop beeing so polite. tracktion has entered the big bussiness so we should do. what counts now is only the fact how many people want something !! and i bet not jules is the one that thought tracktion has to have big plugins pack (i know he wanted it to be a very smal programm) and not jules wanted the integration of mackiecontroller before other things or 64-bit. makie dictates a lot on tracktion, so we only have a chance when we show mackie thjis or that IS needed.
"they're quite responsive.." makes me laugh btw.
"they're quite responsive.." makes me laugh btw.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
You should try being a Cubase user for a while!aldi wrote:"they're quite responsive.." makes me laugh btw.
If I was writing an app, I would be more likely to implement a feature request that came in a polite and friendly format, than one full of aggressive demands and unfavourable comparisons with rival apps.
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- KVRAF
- 3364 posts since 16 Feb, 2004 from atop a katamari
i find that they ARE quite responsive, and it's people like you making angry sweeping posts about how bad a setup they've created that drown out anything useful that they respond with. it's only a low ratio of response from them because there's so much gash whining going on.
Kick, punch, it's all in the mind.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 830 posts since 13 Oct, 2003
yeah right, people like me ??!! i don't know how much "please, please" there were in here during the last year (i also said please 100 times), mackie also do aggressive demands on customers with "buy it it's superduper blabla" comercials, so why can't i say "give me that and I'm happy that I have bought it"... (i have removed the 30 rows of text i've written here because i decided to shut my mouth because it was "whining").
i need a lunch break
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Troll Alert.
Do not feed the trolls.
Do not feed the trolls.
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- KVRAF
- 25036 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
I tend to agree with Vikse - but then again I'm a troll anyway
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
*sigh*
Yes, that's true, Jens.
However, not a single one of us "too polite" people once said that it wasn't a useful feature. That's why it's trolling. Not because his opinion of the topic isn't acceptable (it is), but because we've already covered that. We all think relative snap is a better way of doing it. <shrug>
Greg
Yes, that's true, Jens.
However, not a single one of us "too polite" people once said that it wasn't a useful feature. That's why it's trolling. Not because his opinion of the topic isn't acceptable (it is), but because we've already covered that. We all think relative snap is a better way of doing it. <shrug>
Greg
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- KVRist
- 195 posts since 31 Dec, 2004
Ya I can see how that would piss you offTodd24 wrote:That would be a cool feature but.. either idea givin above are easy quick way to deal with it so you dont get messed up timing. Give them a try.aldi wrote:the way energyxt handels it is great, one button to chose snap with ofset or without. simple.
Why dont you go use Cubase.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 830 posts since 13 Oct, 2003
@todd24 : it simply isn't a quick way for reasons i mentioned. don't get me wrong here. it's just why not all say: "yes it's an important feature to be a completly proffesional product" (same for mtc or stuff like that) not: "ahh, that would be cool, but it's no big deal if it hasn't it because...blabla" and if someone say it (like me in this case) he's a troll or whining. i really hope mackie will be so polite to jules and tracktion and their users.