Cakewalk vs Traction vs used Cubase

[IIRs]

except this came first

In other words, you havent really grasped the full potential of racks.

Most people who slag Tracktion off haven't really understood it in my experience.. you just proved me right again!

or is that kind of comments on people's ability to understand things OK with you - cos it aint round here

I stand by my quote: you made numerous assertions about Tracktion (and Cubase) which are simply not true. ie: you are ignorant.

I may well be smug. I suspect it is partly because my chosen host doesn't suck huge hairy donkey-balls..

I have a lot more experience of Cubase than you have of Tracktion btw..

[ericj23]

you might do - seems unlikely but it's certainly not impossible

as for not working out how to send different tracks to different outputs - well it just goes to show how intuitive tracktion obviously is

oh yeah i was happily building your modular sample thing in cubase - no bother at all - well OK choosing whether the buses are quad and setting up suitable child buses etc is a pain in the proverbials as every fx needs to be ona sperate channel (and there is 16 of them) but for some reason i can't find the redirect plug -in

still as i mess about with tracktion here I can see that the routing is more elaborate than i had imagined but i contend very strongly with the assertion made however inadvertandly that i ahve said anyhting incorrect regarding cubase

I can definitely build that rack layout in cubase (and in cubase it will have pdc )

[ModuLR]

as for not working out how to send different tracks to different outputs - well it just goes to show how intuitive tracktion obviously is

it makes sense to me...

oh yeah i was happily building your modular sample thing in cubase - no bother at all - well OK choosing whether the buses are quad and setting up suitable child buses etc is a pain in the proverbials as every fx needs to be ona sperate channel (and there is 16 of them) but for some reason i can't find the redirect plug -in

just use senderella instead... how about a streenshot?

still as i mess about with tracktion here I can see that the routing is more elaborate than i had imagined but i contend very strongly with the assertion made however inadvertandly that i ahve said anyhting incorrect regarding cubase

I think as a whole, the argument was the implications made towards tracktion.

I can definitely build that rack layout in cubase (and in cubase it will have pdc )

you say the weirdest things at the weirdest times.. because that rack is composed of low level components that would find in something like synthedit or bidule. What does pdc have to do with anything like that? it's like you enjoy throwing out factoids that have no bearing on the issue. why would a low level component that outputs a constant have pdc? or why would an accumulator have pdc? or why would a binary operator have pdc? they are not effects...

[ericj23]

dear god man it was a joke - like over reinforcing my understanding of cubase or soemthing - OK i'll get my coat

what i said - just in case any of you didnt understand was that i was wrong about tracktions modularity - big deal

I stand 100% about what i said -







which was that the guy should try tracktion

PS will try senderella but isn't it quite complex - i remember trying it a while ago before racks came out and it didnt strike me as the quick and easy sends sytem that I wanted - i also have a feeling that your image doesnt contain all the needed info regarding each of the components internal routings -

i'm not sure how i can make any screenshots make a lot of sense - you would need to see the tracks routing and all the sends involved so it might take a few pictures

so i can see this being one of those projects that are started with the best intentions and never quite get done but who knows ?

[mandolarian]

There's a new, simplified Senderalla. In fact, so simple, even I can use it.

But keep it going, guys...This could turn into a classic foodfight! And those of us agonizing over each moment without a T2 release need the release.

Thank you for playing DAW wars.

[ModuLR]

dear god man it was a joke - like over reinforcing my understanding of cubase or soemthing - OK i'll get my coat

that's what these are for...

what i said - just in case any of you didnt understand was that i was wrong about tracktions modularity - big deal

thank you... that's all you had to say to get me off your back...

PS will try senderella but isn't it quite complex - i remember trying it a while ago before racks came out and it didnt strike me as the quick and easy sends sytem that I wanted

I was suggesting use of senderella instead of redirect... because they are actually the same plugin.. I just renamed it. I used senderella to create a feedback loop inside the rack. But in this project it just sends the sample size from the output on the sampler, back to the operator that connects to the accumulator.. it's not sending audio per se.. it's just a fixed number used to determine slice size. (after all it's an instrument, not an effect). Also, senderella is pretty easy to use.. send channal.. pick a number, receive channel pick the same number.. and that's it. All single that passes thru the send gets sent to the receiver as well.

- i also have a feeling that your image doesnt contain all the needed info regarding each of the components internal routings

yes, that does in fact have all the routings. There is nothing internal. From that diagram I can turn around and build it in mulch or eXT. No problem. Input# to matching output#.. no magic in that.

i'm not sure how i can make any screenshots make a lot of sense - you would need to see the tracks routing and all the sends involved so it might take a few pictures

I would love a screenshot.. so I can see how much "sense" cubase makes... it'll already take a few pictures, so hell it's gotta be good!

[jasmeece]

Guys, Guys, I was just asking about the difference between the two programs and to get some opinions from "some people in the know" I do ot even understand the entire modularity argument. Right now I have downloaded or obtained a copy from each company and gotta tell you that I am leaning toward the Traction side The is probably based on the fact that I was making some sounds with it faster, I like the idea of an upgrade path, the amount of information on this site and I like the look of the program I appreciate the help and all of the comments. I am still looking at all of the programs but I am leaning toward the tracktion camp.

[IIRs]

I want to see that screenshot(s) too

[IIRs]

Guys, Guys, I was just asking about the difference between the two programs and to get some opinions from "some people in the know" I do ot even understand the entire modularity argument. Right now I have downloaded or obtained a copy from each company and gotta tell you that I am leaning toward the Traction side The is probably based on the fact that I was making some sounds with it faster, I like the idea of an upgrade path, the amount of information on this site and I like the look of the program I appreciate the help and all of the comments. I am still looking at all of the programs but I am leaning toward the tracktion camp.

Just to some up the modularity arguement for you: one bloke is saying Cubase is as flexible as Tracktion.. everyone else is laughing at him!

Now go and have some fun making music (instead of reading a Cubase manual)

[IIRs]

Guys, Guys, I was just asking about the difference between the two programs and to get some opinions from "some people in the know" I do ot even understand the entire modularity argument. Right now I have downloaded or obtained a copy from each company and gotta tell you that I am leaning toward the Traction side The is probably based on the fact that I was making some sounds with it faster, I like the idea of an upgrade path, the amount of information on this site and I like the look of the program I appreciate the help and all of the comments. I am still looking at all of the programs but I am leaning toward the tracktion camp.

Hey, that's only your 3rd post! That explains it.. you will learn in time that threads with a X vrs Y vrs Z title rarely stop before they reach 28+ pages and get locked!

[mandolarian]

Hey, that's only your 3rd post! That explains it.. you will learn in time that threads with a X vrs Y vrs Z title rarely stop before they reach 28+ pages and get locked!

Shhh! Don't give away the surprise ending. There's still lots of cake and cues to be tossed!

[ModuLR]

Guys, Guys, I was just asking about the difference between the two programs and to get some opinions from "some people in the know" I do ot even understand the entire modularity argument. Right now I have downloaded or obtained a copy from each company and gotta tell you that I am leaning toward the Traction side The is probably based on the fact that I was making some sounds with it faster, I like the idea of an upgrade path, the amount of information on this site and I like the look of the program I appreciate the help and all of the comments. I am still looking at all of the programs but I am leaning toward the tracktion camp.

appologies for hijacking your thread... it must have been the in me... The tracktion userbase is just plain weird... but in a good way! join us loons in the raw materials forum.

[Brother Greenmoon]

No mention of FL?

[jens]

Guys, Guys, I was just asking about the difference between the two programs and to get some opinions from "some people in the know" I do ot even understand the entire modularity argument. Right now I have downloaded or obtained a copy from each company and gotta tell you that I am leaning toward the Traction side The is probably based on the fact that I was making some sounds with it faster, I like the idea of an upgrade path, the amount of information on this site and I like the look of the program I appreciate the help and all of the comments. I am still looking at all of the programs but I am leaning toward the tracktion camp.

so what do you think about eXT then?

[IIRs]

No mention of FL?

FL sucks!

Disclaimer: I've never actually tried it..