Tracktion Software

semiquaver · Post by **semiquaver** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:03 pm

Hi all - I promise I'm almost done....

How do you all handle tracking multiple takes - do you keep laying the clips on the same track or move the completed clips to muted tracks or...

I gather something to help with comping is coming in T2 (can't remember where I saw it...)

thanks!

multree · Post by **multree** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:09 pm

well I simply make new tracks and eventually cut/copy/paste certain lines...

for example when singing the lead vocs I usually try to have just one take.. but sometimes it's hard to make a good performance in one take.. and then it is nice to have them all lined up beneath each other....

so you can solo the tracks... look which lines are best in which take and then you can piece em together....

merge audio clip is a feature I'm still missing... (but only to keep myself from never being done glueing a track together)

and to avoid that I aim for a one take recording at any rate...

multree · Post by **multree** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:10 pm

btw T2s LoopRecording mode should make this obsolete...

well not really but you could go line by line.... instead of singing the whole take several times, just sing each part several times..

and then you can choose which version of each line you wanna use

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:16 pm

Quickest way I have found to get ready for a new take:

Select the track you just recorded.

Copy & paste (CNTRL+C -> CNTRL+V)

Mute one of the copies (the one that doesn't have the input pointing to it)

Select a clip on the other track (if there are more than one CNTRL+A once will select all clips on that track)

Press delete.

You should now have a new blank track with all the same filters and routing as the first, armed and ready to go.

semiquaver · Post by **semiquaver** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:18 pm

Thanks multree - Multiple takes are important - the problem with using many tracks is that you might want to leave your effects up and not have to instantiate copies.

In my experience loop recording is not the answer because folks pause between takes, to listen or think or whatever.

DP lets you have many takes per track, which is handy for tracking. Its a drag for comping though because you can only see one at a time.

The best system would combine both approaches - letting you record multiple takes that are routed through the same effects and output chain and only one of which can be heard at a time, but which can be "collapsed" into a comp... (it would be great to be able to "open up" a comped track and see all the takes again....)

just a thought

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:21 pm

semiquaver wrote:DP lets you have many takes per track, which is handy for tracking. Its a drag for comping though because you can only see one at a time.

T2 allows multiple takes per clip. Perfect for tracking and comping IMO.

semiquaver · Post by **semiquaver** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:26 pm

thanks Platinum - that will work.

It would be great though if it were automated though as it is the sort of operation I do hundreds of times per project.

Even missing a few things its amazing how efficient working in T is vs DP - easier on the brain!

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:34 pm

semiquaver wrote:Thanks multree - Multiple takes are important - the problem with using many tracks is that you might want to leave your effects up and not have to instantiate copies.

Route your record track to another track, and insert your effects there instead. Now you can create as many tracks as you like for alternate takes, but they will all still be routed to the same compressors / reverbs etc on the group track.

semiquaver · Post by **semiquaver** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:38 pm

Argg I keep posting after your reply!

Multiple takes per clip will be joy itself.

thanks again

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:42 pm

semiquaver wrote:Argg I keep posting after your reply!

Sorry!

RCcola · Post by **RCcola** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:51 pm

Semiquaver, just wanted to welcome a fellow DP user to the Tracktion universe. I hear what you're saying re Tracktion's ease of use compared to DP. It's that very thing that keeps me coming back to Tracktion even when DP (4.5) has a number of features that Tracktion lacks.

In fact, like you, the comping thing was a huge factor for me, and I'm overjoyed that we'll be getting that in T2. Multiple mixes in the same file is another DP-thing I like, but Tracktion's Project page makes that pretty accessible as well. I've been whining here and at the Mackie forum for input quantize that will let you adjust the strength- something DP does. I can work around it of course, but I've come to rely on it in DP.

Anyway, glad to have you here. Looking forward to comping in T2!

jens · Post by **jens** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:00 pm

platinumears wrote: You should now have a new blank track with all the same filters and routing as the first, armed and ready to go.

it's always a good idea to waste a few cpu cycles

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:48 am

jens wrote:
platinumears wrote: You should now have a new blank track with all the same filters and routing as the first, armed and ready to go.
it's always a good idea to waste a few cpu cycles

You trying to make a point? If you're refering to unneseccary duplication of compressors etc, I refer you to the tip I offered above (sub-groups: maybe a little bit too advanced for you?)

jens · Post by **jens** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:48 am

platinumears wrote:
jens wrote:
platinumears wrote: You should now have a new blank track with all the same filters and routing as the first, armed and ready to go.
it's always a good idea to waste a few cpu cycles
You trying to make a point? If you're refering to unneseccary duplication of compressors etc, I refer you to the tip I offered above (sub-groups: maybe a little bit too advanced for you?)

I missed that reply - tbh I didn't read through the whole thread before I replied

yes, that was my point - better create a new blank track and route that through the initial track

b.t.w.: what's up with that insulting bit of your post?

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:06 am

I like your new signature, Jens.