Incremental Movement Of Midi Notes in Midi Clip.. How To???
- KVRAF
- 2750 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from Raincoast of Grayland
Snap! Turn it off.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 169 posts since 7 Nov, 2003 from Melbourne Australia
Thanks for that.
Also is there a way to stop visual update of sequence?
For eg, I want to see what Im fixing in the start of the song while the song is up to playing bar 26..?
Also is there a way to stop visual update of sequence?
For eg, I want to see what Im fixing in the start of the song while the song is up to playing bar 26..?
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- KVRAF
- 3745 posts since 29 Sep, 2002 from Killafornia
Turn "Scroll" button off. (lower right corner)Mr Sleep wrote:Thanks for that.
Also is there a way to stop visual update of sequence?
For eg, I want to see what Im fixing in the start of the song while the song is up to playing bar 26..?
A couple of tips about moving things around.
"Q" turns off/on snap. And the snap resolution changes according to zoom level. So its really fast to zoom in with the scroll wheel, edit the midi clip , and zoom back out with the mouse wheel.
- KVRAF
- 2750 posts since 2 Feb, 2005 from Raincoast of Grayland
Not that I know. The focus always seems to be where the action is. And that action is either playing or editing. You can do both at once? Maybe you just need one of those 54" widescreen monitors!
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- KVRist
- 48 posts since 27 Mar, 2005 from Albuquerque, NM
If you want to move an entire clip, when you click on the clip, the MEASURE:BEAT:TICK info is in the bottom pane...you can incremently change any of that.How do I make incremental movement of midi notes within the midi clip editor??
If you want to move a note within a clip, double-click the clip to "open" it, then you can click on a note (or 2 or 3 using CTRL+Click), and change the MEASURE:BEAT:TICK info of just that/those events the same way in that bottom middle pane.
HTH
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- KVRAF
- 1615 posts since 28 Mar, 2005
unfortunatey dragging a timecode field or typing a number in same is not "incremental" change. certainly clicking on the field, typing three digits and "enter" after doing a little addition is much too much.
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- KVRist
- 48 posts since 27 Mar, 2005 from Albuquerque, NM
Well what the heck is it then? If you're in the TICK or FRAME field, you can't get much smaller of an increment, now can you.unfortunatey dragging a timecode field or typing a number in same is not "incremental" change
Too much what? Work? Pretty accurate and easy if you know you want to move an event or 2 or 3 or clip or 2 or 3 for 32 bars or 30 seconds. But hey, mental arithmatic too much? Don't do it that way....whatever floats your boat.certainly clicking on the field, typing three digits and "enter" after doing a little addition is much too much
Incidently, when you turn snap off and drag something, you see the timecode values change. And conversely, when you hold the mouse down in a timecode field and move the mouse, you see the selected events move INCREMENTALLY with the numeric change. Same thing, different method.
So...did you have an answer to contribute?
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- KVRAF
- 1615 posts since 28 Mar, 2005
the answer is simple: you should be able to nudge a midi event the same way you nudge a clip, with a keystroke - how about command right or left!
Also you should be able to select a group of clips or midi events and have a "shift" commant that lets you enter a distance in ticks to shift the selected data.
You should have access to the time-code fields from the keyboard: DP uses the "." key to highlight the first timecode frame.
Yes a click and four keystrokes is too much work just to nudge a midi note, something which, if you are tweaking a midi track to synch to audio or picture, you may do literally hundreds of times in a row in a single editting session.
detail: when dragging an item or a timecode field it is hard to control the amount of movement - thats whats meant by incremental movement - just one of whatever the current nudge units are. Keystrokes are the way to do it.
Also you should be able to select a group of clips or midi events and have a "shift" commant that lets you enter a distance in ticks to shift the selected data.
You should have access to the time-code fields from the keyboard: DP uses the "." key to highlight the first timecode frame.
Yes a click and four keystrokes is too much work just to nudge a midi note, something which, if you are tweaking a midi track to synch to audio or picture, you may do literally hundreds of times in a row in a single editting session.
detail: when dragging an item or a timecode field it is hard to control the amount of movement - thats whats meant by incremental movement - just one of whatever the current nudge units are. Keystrokes are the way to do it.
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- KVRist
- 462 posts since 5 Apr, 2004 from Madison WI
How do you nudge a clip?semiquaver wrote:the same way you nudge a clip
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- KVRAF
- 1615 posts since 28 Mar, 2005
command and right or left arrow (or is it control?)
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- KVRist
- 48 posts since 27 Mar, 2005 from Albuquerque, NM
I'll grant that the arrow keys (or other keystroke combinations) could be better utilized.... CTRL+ARROW nudge the clips only, and 1 full measure regardless of snap on or off.
But thats the only thing we agree on.
I'm usually not so adversarial, but this isnt a "what sucks about T1" thread, its a "how do I?" thread. And while I can see tossing a jab at T1 in while you're offering a suggestion , your just jabbing annoyed me.
I'll get over it.
BTW ...what is DP?
But thats the only thing we agree on.
Unless you have MS or something that inhibits normal motor skills, I completely disagree. A slow mouse advancement moved, predictably, 1 click.when dragging an item or a timecode field it is hard to control the amount of movement
Oh...so now you WANT to do arithmatic and type? Which is it?...and have a "shift" commant that lets you enter a distance in ticks to shift the selected data
I'm usually not so adversarial, but this isnt a "what sucks about T1" thread, its a "how do I?" thread. And while I can see tossing a jab at T1 in while you're offering a suggestion , your just jabbing annoyed me.
I'll get over it.
BTW ...what is DP?
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- KVRist
- 478 posts since 22 Nov, 2004 from Alexandria, VA
DP = digital performer
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
[hint]semiquaver wrote:the answer is simple: you should be able to nudge a midi event the same way you nudge a clip, with a keystroke - how about command right or left!
T2's key-binding features have been much improved..
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- KVRAF
- 1615 posts since 28 Mar, 2005
One of the ways that this forum can be useful is in helping to create a consensus when there is something in T that can be improved. I am impressed enough w Tracktion to abandon DP after 15 years - a very deep (and expensive) program. The quality of the design in T overwelms the features I'm missing in DP. On the other hand there are a few very simple places where editing and navigation are rough and could be improved. The fact that the question of how to nudge a midi note has come up several times suggests that there should be such a function. The shift idea is something else - its for timecode offsets when working to picture or bringing things in and out of certain machines etc : the nudge is for efficient editting - the shift is for specific (or large) movements. Neither of these is handled well by dragging or typing in timecode fields.
btw command arrow will nudge the clips by the timeline snap resolution.
btw command arrow will nudge the clips by the timeline snap resolution.

