multiple takes

[jens]

[Espy]

Thanks multree - Multiple takes are important - the problem with using many tracks is that you might want to leave your effects up and not have to instantiate copies.

Route your record track to another track, and insert your effects there instead. Now you can create as many tracks as you like for alternate takes, but they will all still be routed to the same compressors / reverbs etc on the group track.

Uhm, pardon my ignorance, but how exactly do you do that? Because it would be extraordinarily useful and I haven't found out how its done yet.

Thanks in advance.

[IIRs]

Uhm, pardon my ignorance, but how exactly do you do that?

Simply route a track to another track, instead of directly to an output:



Here you see a track I called "Microtonic" routed to a group track called "Drums"

[Espy]

Wonderful!

That is so simple I could kick myself for not finding it on my own. High CPU usage: thing of the past.

Thanks!

[FoxV]

platinumears,

Yeah, awesome! When you say "group track" do you simply mean that you set a side a track that acts as an input for other tracks (+ itself too, possibly)? Or do you mean an additional function in T1?

[IIRs]

When you say "group track" do you simply mean that you set a side a track that acts as an input for other tracks

In Tracktion its as simple as that, yes.

Other apps often have systems modeled on hardware mixers, which are more complex, and less flexible..

Tracktion does it properly!

[Lunch Money]

platinumears,

Yeah, awesome! When you say "group track" do you simply mean that you set a side a track that acts as an input for other tracks (+ itself too, possibly)? Or do you mean an additional function in T1?

Warning: long-winded example approaching.

Each track that you add appears in your list of potential outputs. It just means that you take a (usually) blank track, and that's a track that you can rout other tracks to. I wouldn't put any additional material inside this track, personally, I'd just use it as a destination.

So, if you wanted, you COULD have tracks called:

*Main Vocal - contains your main recording
*Backing Vocal 1 - self explanatory
*Backing Vocal 2 - self explanatory
*Backing Vocal 3 - self explanatory
*Main Vocal Doubled - a copy of "Main Vocal", but run through a pitch-correction plug-in and a gentle chorus.

Now, let's say you have a compressor, de-esser, EQ that you want to use on the 2 "main Vocals" tracks: You set up a track called "Effects for Main Vocals" and then route Main Vocal and Main Vocal Doubled to this track instead of the default output.

You have a DIFFERENT compressor, de-esser, EQ, and also a tube saturation that you want to use on all the Backing Vocals tracks: Create "Effects for Backing Vocals" and route all three of those outputs to this new track instead of the default output.

Now, you have an aural exciter that you want to use for ALL of those tracks. Create a track called "Aural Exciter for Vocals", and now you can route "Effects for Main Vocals" and "Effects for Backing Vocals" to the "Aural Exciter for Vocals" instead of the main output

Now they're all "collected" in one place, and the output can be directed (finally) to the default audio output.

The beauty is that will clever planning, there's an infinite number of subgroups available for mixing, not just the 3 I showed, and in a much easier way than a ridiculous 'hardware emulation' mixer could hope to accomplish.

Greg

[edelweiss]

gee whizz, Mister Wizard. That sounds even more functional than the "mixer paradigm" in which you usually have only a limited number of "busses" or "sub-groups". (note....Please pardon the heavy sarcasm)

[dealwithit]

Now if we could just mute/solo the tracks we want to...

[mandolarian]

Now if we could just mute/solo the tracks we want to...

We can! But you have to really, really want to.

[Lunch Money]

I'm confused. The sarcasm must've been lost on me.

[FoxV]

hey...my brain didn't hurt that time...cool, me a T1 are starting to bond!

[JazAddict]

MAN I hope I can find this thread when I grow up & be a real Tracktion user.

[soulata]

The beauty is that will clever planning, there's an infinite number of subgroups available for mixing, not just the 3 I showed, and in a much easier way than a ridiculous 'hardware emulation' mixer could hope to accomplish.

Greg

but what about different sends for each track?

let's say same reverb for backing vocs but different fx for each. (ok, not a good example but anyway)

k

[IIRs]

but what about different sends for each track?

let's say same reverb for backing vocs but different fx for each.

Easy: effects (eg: compressors) on individual channels, with reverb either inserted on the group, or set up as an aux send.