T1 mantains T2's loop recording charecterstics!!!!

[Sidhu]

tell me rob... do the aux plugs show as plugins not available within T1 ? if so, then all one has to do is replace it with either senderella or a properly configured rack, and ure on.

the edit opened as normal (no error messages or missing plugins) but the aux send / return just didnt appear in the filters section

slainte rob

Im sure it's just a oversight. Such display is extremely important for backward compatibility... in fact, if there are any 'tracktion' plugs that don't show up (3rd party VST's do)... it needs to be rectified....

what say ???

Sidhu

[koolkeys]

The problem with backward compatibility with the Aux sends is that it's a T2 feature. It's one of the selling points. If they start adding support for Bwave and aux sends, why upgrade? They have to make money on it somehow. So there's only so much you can support before making it useless to upgrade.

But there may be a way. And if there is, I'm sure Jules can do it!

Koolkeys

[IIRs]

If you plan to collaborate with T1 users, simply use racks or Senderella for your sends..

Unless I missed something, the only visible part of T2's support for B.Wavs is the "set start time to original start time of BWAV" option in the R-click menu.. if T1 doesn't offer that option, it doesn't much matter what support is hidden under the hood.

The important thing IMO is that Jules has obviously gone to some lengths to ensure that all T users can still freely collaborate whether they have upgraded yet or not, and I plan to buy the man a pint at the first opportunity!

[koolkeys]

I think it's awesome to allow compatibility. Am I correct in assuming that it doesn't usually go that way? I know that from what I've tried with other apps, it does. But myself I would consider this a very important "feature" to have. And it's something that most others won't have.

Koolkeys

[Sidhu]

Yes, the backwards compatibility seems amazing. I cant help but think that a lot of this was preconcieved, durig the development of T1.

But i still mantain that it is important or T1 to show plugs not available to it (such as the Aux) as missing. The we can ofcource use another substitute..

Sidhu

[operandx]

Backwards compatibility one would expect. But, forwards compatibility, that is pure genius.

[Sidhu]

What he said...

[jens]

pure genius? aha... so did someone try it with an older version than 1.601? I mean, as 1.601 was built on the 15th of July last year you'd think that several of the new features should already have been finished by then, no?

That's what I meant with my post on page 1 b.t.w.:

I wonder if a bunch of features were buried in T1 to ensure forward compatibility?

that's awesome...

I think developer's do this all the time - putting new (often unfinished) code in the official release but hiding it - I still remember when Jorgen's beta-preview of the sampler was a simple .ext file which only had to be loaded and there it was...

Jorgen also forgot regularly to hide the sampler when he released a new beta - a few minutes later he always pulled it again but one or two quick users already had it by then...


My guess is that Jules is only better a hiding things than Jorgen as he seems to be less chaotic

I think Jules works (just as e.g. Jorgen) always with the same code. There probably aren't different versions of this code loaded in his editor at the same time - so when he compiled 1.601 he probably just used what he already had finished of V2 - that is he used the most recent version of his code he was just working on - so he just had to hide the newly implemented features and called it 1.601 -
there's nothing genius about it even if you're stunned that it works... - no magic involved


say you are working on a song - while you are recording it you say to yourself: 'hey, an orchestral version would be nice' - so you hire the London philharmonic orchestra give them the sheets and let tzhem play your tune - you record it into the same version of your track but when you render the master
for your album you mute all the orchestra-tracks.

Half a year later you want to release a remix-album and you load the same song into the sequencer of your choice and mute all the drums, guitars, etc. - then you render your master. But of course the orchestra was already there on the normal album version - pure genius!

[braj]

So, I take it, you can work in the demo and get a lot done, and then open the edit in T1 and render?

[spacefox]

So, I take it, you can work in the demo and get a lot done, and then open the edit in T1 and render?

This is what I do with the MIDI editor.

[operandx]

Jens don't take things too literally, don't you do irony?

pure genius? aha...

[Sidhu]

Jens don't take things too literally, don't you do irony?

pure genius? aha...

nope...

[jens]

irony? wozdat?