my feelings

[semiquaver]

DP sounds fine. Some of the built in MAS effects are for crap (although the plate is neato) - but what do you expect! The fades and mixing / routing are all great. And the pitch shifting / time stretching and spectral effects are quite good. Damn thing crashes often though has a retarded VI implementation, freezing sucks and it suffers from window spawn and hogs the cpu so fuggit.

[pdxindy]

Whatever that means.

Regarding MP3 - just because it can be a useful tool doesn't mean it's a 'pro' tool. Of course, you realize that Cubase and the rest added it simply to appease people and add one more feature (not to mention an extra fee to the end user as MP3 isn't free) to their list. I'm sure the engineers at Steinberg cringe at MP3 used for professional application.

mp3 is great for streaming internet radio. For the past 2 years, I have been involved in internet 'broadcasts' that have been picked up by numerous radio stations around the country.

In the lofty world of 'pro' audio production, mp3 has no place, but in the world of the average person seeking to communicate with as wide an audience as possible, mp3 is your friend

iTunes will convert aiff or wav to mp3 so I don't care if mp3 export were added to Tracktion

[Lunch Money]

I use mp3, I just don't think it needs to be integrated into Tracktion.

[mandolarian]

Recently, I worked with CBC Radio One and of course, I was worried that my T1 rig would live up to their standards. It didn't. It far exceeded them!

Granted this was a *remote* show, but still... They would collect field recordings on a minidisk recorder (at hi-compression), dump to Samplitude via analog in, mix down to mp3. Send mp3 files somewhere in cyberspace for massaging. Get back another bunch of mp3 files, load them into Samp and render back into mp3. It sounded horrid. So many artifacts, should have been on the History Channel! They said, hey, no worries, it's only AM radio! But it sounded worse than AM radio.

My stuff from T1 sounded so much better. Duh! Also they loved the workflow in Tracktion. But obviously they won't be using T in a *pro* environment as it doesn't support the mp3 format. Thankfully.

I fondly recall the days they used to send qualified engineers out with a Nagra, but today it's the producer, a laptop, crappy sound card and native mp3 editing.

Once upon a time, pro standards would make it into the consumer world, but sadly, it seems the other way round now. I blame the internet. And kids. Kids and the internet and dial-up.

MP3: just say no!

[semiquaver]

Jules could put an Mp3 option for import along with a "not reccommended" caution...

[headquest]

I blame the internet. And kids. Kids and the internet and dial-up!

Are you sure it's not kids? Or even the internet?

[headquest]

Jules could put an Mp3 option for import along with a "not reccommended" caution...

[pHz]

Jules could put an Mp3 option for import along with a "not reccommended" caution...

heehee ... that would be SO tracktionesque ...

(of course a hardwired max .mp3 encoding rate of 32kbps would help too)

slainte rob

[pdxindy]

Recently, I worked with CBC Radio One and of course, I was worried that my T1 rig would live up to their standards. It didn't. It far exceeded them!

Granted this was a *remote* show, but still... They would collect field recordings on a minidisk recorder (at hi-compression), dump to Samplitude via analog in, mix down to mp3. Send mp3 files somewhere in cyberspace for massaging. Get back another bunch of mp3 files, load them into Samp and render back into mp3. It sounded horrid. So many artifacts, should have been on the History Channel! They said, hey, no worries, it's only AM radio! But it sounded worse than AM radio.

My stuff from T1 sounded so much better. Duh! Also they loved the workflow in Tracktion. But obviously they won't be using T in a *pro* environment as it doesn't support the mp3 format. Thankfully.

I fondly recall the days they used to send qualified engineers out with a Nagra, but today it's the producer, a laptop, crappy sound card and native mp3 editing.

Once upon a time, pro standards would make it into the consumer world, but sadly, it seems the other way round now. I blame the internet. And kids. Kids and the internet and dial-up.

MP3: just say no!

MP3 quality depends upon the kb rate. At 320kb with voice, almost nobody would be able to hear the difference between it and an uncompressed wav file. 192kb is plenty good for radio interviews.

Your cell phone is 13kb/sec

When producing for am/fm and internet radio, we go out with minidisc recorders, ipods and laptops. I often use my camcorders for audio recording.

I may buy an Edirol R-1 as a field test. They are somewhat expensive ($700 with 1GB card) but the only small portable audio device with ability to record with adjustable compression or no compression and digital out.

[headquest]

I may buy an Edirol R-1 as a field test. They are somewhat expensive ($700 with 1GB card) but the only small portable audio device with ability to record with adjustable compression or no compression and digital out.

I'm planning on buying that thing, too. Was waiting for some reviews to come in, but it seems to have got in under the radar. Anyone here have it?

[mandolarian]

Your cell phone is 13kb/sec

My cell phone is off. And I wouldn't use it as a 'field recorder' either. All I can say about <192K data rates is, please, don't hit that cymbal!

My point is that while lossy formats may be good enough for interviews, it is nasty when used as the *editing* format.

Like to try the R-1 too. Or its 4 track brother.