Tracktion Software

trs · Post by **trs** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:01 am

As it is in SONAR. Very handy to see and to manage what´s going on inside a track in numbers terms...

drlazy · Post by **drlazy** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:06 am

Describe the feature. Some of us never worked with sonar.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 9:18 am

I think Sonar's MIDI event list is similar to all the others (Cubase, Logic, etc). Even CMuzys has an event list.

In Tracktion's paradigm, I imagine this could be popped into the properties area of the screen.

Not a FR I personally need though. Can you explain how you find it useful, trs?

haydxn · Post by **haydxn** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:59 pm

event lists are pretty handy. you can see all the midi data in a list, without having to scroll the screen up or down to see different types or change screen modes; so an adjacent note that's 4 octaves away is just shown on the next line, and if a CC message appears then it's there too without having to select which CC you're viewing. it's all just data, looking a bit like a spreadsheet, but it's the most direct way of editing midi if you know what you're doing.

i've occasionally found myself wanting for a MIDI event list in tracktion too. it's not for everybody, but if you know how to use it and how it can be handy, and you know a bit about direct midi data then it's, er.. sorry i didn't construct this sentence very well..

yup, event list is a good idea.

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Sat Apr 09, 2005 1:24 pm

I use the one in Cubase a lot: it can be extrememly useful on occassion.. eg: one of the ringtone formats we convert MIDIs into will not allow prg changes data to coincide with a note: they always have to be carefully placed in gaps between notes to avoid error messages.. which means I have to ignore Cubase's non-destructive prg change / bank select options, and place them amnually in the grid editor..

trs · Post by **trs** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 7:59 am

Exactly, very usefull for all of that. Bear in mind that otherwise some MIDI data is literally invisible. Where in the track are cc and pc messages hidden ... etc....

titanium · Post by **titanium** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:28 am

This is a good FR. It's been standard on sequencers for a long time (maybe because the first sequencers weren't GUI based!). Midi data could be displayed in the properties pane. A handful of tick boxes would let you filter by message type--sysex, system, real-time, note, cc, etc.

NightStalker · Post by **NightStalker** » Wed Jun 01, 2005 11:30 am

Hi all - just found this thread after someone on the Mackie forum pointed me towards it. I started a separate thread on the same topic a few days ago, link:

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=89528

Seems I'm not the only one wishing for an editable MIDI event list.

Here's hoping.

porpoise · Post by **porpoise** » Thu Jun 09, 2005 11:31 am

HI

I agree that this is a usefull tool for looking at and editing midi - yea it can be done another way but its all about giving people options - as long as the options don't get in your way - I don't use video so that aspect of T2 is useless to me, I don't have a problem with it as long as it doesn't effect my use of the program.

I find the list good for looking at note length and position and making edits to events that might be more time consuming via a clip.

An example is correcting the start,length and volume of an individual midi event - in the normal midi view this would probably take longer or be more fiddly - I use to work a lot in the event editor when I was on Logic - it was a comfortable place to work!

Flipper.

Tracktion Software

KVR Audio

FR: Editable MIDI event list