I need to know.In t1 is the master volume fader pre or post inserts.. It should be post inserty..
but
Also, none of the clip leds within Final mix are lighting up during the passage of the song, however, the T1 master meter clip light if coming on every now and then. What do i follow ? All faders are at unity.
sidhu
Let's talk about final mix
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- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from New Delhi, India
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- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from New Delhi, India
I gave the mda dither plug inserted affter final mix... possible that the noise being induced here is raising the level of the mix just that much ??? this is a heavy metal mix, so i am pushing it. I think thats it.
Thats why i want final mix to have dither built in...
Sidhu
Thats why i want final mix to have dither built in...
Sidhu
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Master volume is post-insert. If you insert a dither plug here, you MUST make sure the master fader is at unity. (the same would apply if Final Mix added the dither)
The different meters will be using different methods to detct "overs" which is why they don't agree: I suggest ignoring both of these and relying on Inspector.
Inspector is also very useful in that it provides RMS level metering on the same scale as Peak metering: the difference between these two is known as the "peak to average ratio" and if it this is too small it means your audio is too compressed. Generally speaking, if your peaks are hitting OdbFS, the RMS levels should be no higher than about -9dBFS (for a very compressed mix) preferably a lot less.
The different meters will be using different methods to detct "overs" which is why they don't agree: I suggest ignoring both of these and relying on Inspector.
Inspector is also very useful in that it provides RMS level metering on the same scale as Peak metering: the difference between these two is known as the "peak to average ratio" and if it this is too small it means your audio is too compressed. Generally speaking, if your peaks are hitting OdbFS, the RMS levels should be no higher than about -9dBFS (for a very compressed mix) preferably a lot less.
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- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from New Delhi, India
ofcource.. i have been told to use inspector previously also.. stupid of me to have forgotten.
and if we are using dither as the last bit of processing in the mastering chain.. why is it that we MUST have the faders at unity ?
thanks
Sidhu
and if we are using dither as the last bit of processing in the mastering chain.. why is it that we MUST have the faders at unity ?
thanks
Sidhu
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Because dithering involves adding noise to the signal, and for it to work the noise needs to be at exactly the right volume..sidhu wrote:and if we are using dither as the last bit of processing in the mastering chain.. why is it that we MUST have the faders at unity ?
(you can always add another Vol / Pan filter before the diher plug if you need to change the gain.)
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
sorry where does dither fit in here?
I havent really played with these compressors, I sometimes get a little scared with this type, its the same as the ones in adobe audition... makes me nervous
RonC
I havent really played with these compressors, I sometimes get a little scared with this type, its the same as the ones in adobe audition... makes me nervous
RonC
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Always right at the end of the chain, if you are dropping the bit-depth (eg: to 16-bit for CD)rpc9943 wrote:sorry where does dither fit in here?
If in doubt just turn on Tracktion's own dither, and don't worry about it any further..
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- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from New Delhi, India
platinumears wrote:Always right at the end of the chain, if you are dropping the bit-depth (eg: to 16-bit for CD)rpc9943 wrote:sorry where does dither fit in here?
If in doubt just turn on Tracktion's own dither, and don't worry about it any further..
Sidhu
p.s. Im getting a little tired of smcking myself on my forehead...
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- KVRAF
- 1527 posts since 3 Apr, 2002 from desolation row
Indian heavy metal? Any place I can listen?
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- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from New Delhi, India
pw wrote:Indian heavy metal? Any place I can listen?
yeah! but it's still in english! Maybe once i have the mix ready.. give this a listen in the meantime... we'll mostly be rerecording it shortly..a scratch...http://thestudio.audioshot.net/Mp3/Home.mp3
Sidhu
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- KVRAF
- 3227 posts since 4 Jan, 2005
hey rpc , i love final mix, if you want to learn more bout compression try toying with the kjauer classic compressor free, n then the blockfish digitalfishphones.com , more simplified compressors.. the final mix is actually 3 compressor used in a chain along with eq, i like some of the presets, i mainly use the compressor presets n mess with the eq, the eq is awsome.........
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 6490 posts since 14 Jun, 2004 from Rochester, NY
I understand compressors... they just... ugh.. i use blockfish often.
RonC
RonC
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- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from New Delhi, India
blockfish is good! My goto compressor. play around with the VCA and opto modes. Brilliant!
not to mention, spitfish and floorfish are my goto deesser and expander/gate.
Sidhu
not to mention, spitfish and floorfish are my goto deesser and expander/gate.
Sidhu
Last edited by Sidhu on Sat Apr 16, 2005 9:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- KVRian
- 1372 posts since 22 Sep, 2003 from New Delhi, India
bout the EQ, i really like it.. but i feel tweaking it is a pain. I like to be able to tweak eq's the way i can Equim. Final mix just is not that responsive.
Sidhu
Sidhu