liberation!

[nuisance sonore]

i went one step further and switched off the mains power to my house to see if that would liberate my senses even more. i felt so liberated without those level meters that i whooshed thru a whole track without saving and now i'm gently rocking backwards and forwards in the corner in the dark.

not sure whether this 'mental transferance' message sending to kvr without electricity is going to work tho...

It worked

[lharless]

question: if i take my meters away how will i be sure that im not clipping? i mean, really sure.

32 bit whatchaWHO? 64 bit whassit? huh-wheresa-how-saywhat?


i've always used metering to make sure that my input from a live recording was going in as planned, and as a meter bridge when mixing down.

my board tells me if im clipping going into the disc, but to mixdown, i dont see how you could do without the meters. please enlighten me. i would be ever so grateful.

[valley]

You honestly cannot in any practical sense clip a signal internal to Tracktion.

Floating point digital audio treats the range +1 .. -1 as being full range amplitude. IE values above 1 or below -1 are clipped. Floating point allows those numbers to go off into the realms of VERY BIG(tm). IE much greater than a million. That would be greater than a million times louder than full range. You are rather unlikely to achieve this.

Audio coming into Tracktion has a finite range, determined by your audio hardware. Audio leaving Tracktion has a finite range determined by your audio hardware. Audio *inside* Tracktio, IE after the input meters, and before the master out meter, has more or less unlimited headroom.

Some plugs may not like being fed signals above +/-1 but that's just bad design.

[jtxx000]

Some plugs may not like being fed signals above +/-1 but that's just bad design.

this may be important for distortion plugs...

i personally like having the per track level meters because when i render tracks (which i do fairly frequently) i want to have the highest possible volume without clipping. i usually mix all my tracks at a fairly high volume and then turn it down with the master fader.

[IIRs]

i personally like having the per track level meters because when i render tracks (which i do fairly frequently) i want to have the highest possible volume without clipping. i usually mix all my tracks at a fairly high volume and then turn it down with the master fader.

unless you are rendering to 16-bit (which I would not recomend anyway) there is no benefit to this at all.

[valley]

Some plugs may not like being fed signals above +/-1 but that's just bad design.

this may be important for distortion plugs...

Good point.

[jtxx000]

unless you are rendering to 16-bit (which I would not recomend anyway) there is no benefit to this at all.

ehh... i still am (i really need to change that don't i )

[parky]

question: if i take my meters away how will i be sure that im not clipping? i mean, really sure.

Learn to trust your ears.

Does it sound like it's clipping or distorted? Meters are only a visual snapshot of what the sound is doing. How do you hear sound? Through your ears, isn't it?

[djsubject]

some clipping can give crunch (nice crunch) & all so some can sound shit

TBH i havent herd T1 or T2 clip (appart from the master out)

[IIRs]

question: if i take my meters away how will i be sure that im not clipping? i mean, really sure.

If you don't clip the ADCs on your card (and you don't adjust any input gains in Tracktion) then your input levels are ok. You can set these using your soundcard mixer app metering without even launching Tracktion, or you could use T2's big input meters mode.

the only other place you can clip is the mix buss.

[parky]

TBH i havent herd T1 or T2 clip (appart from the master out)

Exactly. Why wear a tinfoil hat to protect against alien radio waves when there aren't any aliens bombarding the earth with radio waves?

Myself, I wear a tinfoil hat for it's
jaunty fashion look and functionality as a rain hat!

[ModuLR]

my music falls into the weirdo crap space alien adriods, sexy vixen, and hoodlums with bigs guns genre anyway... utter crap, and unprofessional... so I find I can get away with mixing using my bummed right ear instead of the visual cues. It's really distracting seeing those meters bounce up and down. I don't have the willpower to ignore 'em.. so begone from thy sight bouncing lights of distraction! begone!

[semiquaver]

but I like your music ModulR! What's "professional" music - Madonna?

anyhow in the old days we did a lot of mixing without having a meter per track - on the 02r you had to select a track to see the levels - before that in the ancient days we had out 2" machines in a machine room and so didn't dee those levels often...

Happily T lets you add them or take them away at will and wherever. How awesome is that!

Now while we arew getting rid of distractions what about letting us toggle the cursor off altogether! On my mac the cursor occasionaly stops moving altogether and I actually like it that way!

Maybe someone should write an audio-only DAW - call it blindman studio...

[parky]

my music falls into the weirdo crap space alien adriods, sexy vixen, and hoodlums with bigs guns genre anyway...

Ahhh...Barbarella and Chewbaca meet
Snoop Dog in da hood for to do a weapons deal!

No?

[parky]

Now while we arew getting rid of distractions what about letting us toggle the cursor off altogether!

I thought T1 did that already? I think it's called a 'follow' function
where you can select to have the cursor keep up with the track position.

Or is that in Cubase SX?