FR: SNAPSHOTS!

[ModuLR]

exactly... a well thought implementation of folder tracks would resolve all of this... and still remain mixerless!

[nuisance sonore]

What happened with Daniel mixer. Doesn't that work?

[JoMal]

I think it's an excellent FR. How are you guys mixing projects with 20-30 tracks?

24 tracks is the maximum-sized project I've done before, but here's the thing, and it's only MY way of .....

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Greg

Yikes Greg! I'll need time to digest all of this.
I'm a bit of an old timer but I do have an open mind. I do enjoy hearing how other folks work and you've given me a few ideas here. I do feel a bit claustrophobic if I can't see everything at once, that I'll admit.

J

[willowhaus]

To be fair: I see the point, mainly when mixing drums. I did my 1st T project with live drums & percussion tracks: drum kit spanned across 8 tracks, maybe 4 or more adding percussion. Now, since all that's got to work together, there is definitely a value in being able to view the drum submix, say to tweak the toms & play with the overhead levels after adding in some instruments: I do remember that after flying in some keyboard parts having to go back & fine-tune the drum levels. It would be handy to have "submix views"...that said, I can think of other things more important that I'd like to see (like the Editing option I mentioned elsewhere ).

[Lunch Money]

JoMal -- See, now THAT I can take as an honest answer.

Folder Tracks. WAAAAAAaaaayyyyyy more important and useful than a mixer.

Greg

[valley]

It would be handy to have "submix views"...

That basically is a folder track. Folder tracks are a seperate, but related, FR.

[braj]

OK, don't call it a mixer then But I'd still like it. I like valley's comment, and it would be like folder tracks. I guess 'mixer' is way too loaded a word around here.

[willowhaus]

It would be handy to have "submix views"...

That basically is a folder track. Folder tracks are a seperate, but related, FR.

Got a link to that FR? No idea what you're talking about, and search for "Folder Tracks" turns up about 10 pages of stuff!

[braj]

I guess the question would be, how best to implement folder tracks then, in the tracks view (where you would need to 'hide' stuff) or by something in the contextual area (what exactly do you call that area?). It amounts to the same thing essentially.

[nuisance sonore]

Totally ignored
So I'll repeat for those asking for a mixer.
There's a guy who made one for Tracktion, and another who made a rack preset for it, so why not use that and give the topic a rest?

Will I need to repeat again?

[IIRs]

This in an old suggestion, but as Jules was fairly positive about the idea when I first suggested it (I think it was my first post in this forum actually!)..

.. how about an option to flip the display by 90 degrees, so the tracks ran from top to bottom, with the filter area aligned left to right along the bottom. Call it "mix view" or something, and keep the current drag'n'drop filter paradigm.. any thoughts?

[braj]

Totally ignored
So I'll repeat for those asking for a mixer.
There's a guy who made one for Tracktion, and another who made a rack preset for it, so why not use that and give the topic a rest?

Will I need to repeat again?

It doesn't do the same thing. Daniel's mixers are great for submixers in racks but they don't do what I'm asking. I'd like the integration only Jules could provide.

[braj]

This in an old suggestion, but as Jules was fairly positive about the idea when I first suggested it (I think it was my first post in this forum actually!)..

.. how about an option to flip the display by 90 degrees, so the tracks ran from top to bottom, with the filter area aligned left to right along the bottom. Call it "mix view" or something, and keep the current drag'n'drop filter paradigm.. any thoughts?

That sounds interesting. You could even make your tracks green and emulate the Matrix screens. OK, maybe that's not a good idea

[willowhaus]

(Flame Suit on...)FWIW, it seems that you could theoretically create another window in the "contextual area" (I like that ) and have it simply mirror the pan/level filters of your choice. Perhaps a simple number select on each track, or a menu selection "Assign To..."; select several tracks & pick a group, and then that window would just re-display group X's filters?

I might be wrong, but it seems that this wouldn't cause a significant performance hit, as long as the view was 'destroyed' when the window was inactive (so it wouldn't be updating constantly). It doesn't really have to cross into the "Mixer Screen" paradigm, where you're making phony channel strips (which I hate anyway!).

[JoMal]

JoMal - remember that you can move from filter to filter with opt-arrow keys - so I find its pretty easy to get to the filter I want to tweak. On my screen the filters are still accesible with everything on the screen up to about 30 tracks then I have to scroll...

What I would like is to add nudge bottons and keystrokes to the volume fader - I don't want to grab it and move it half a db right or left - just hit + or something until its right.

Great tip semi. The only problem (for me) is that it tabs through ALL filters so if you just want to tweak levels you would have to make sure your volume filters were at the same exact position on each track if using opt/alt-down arrow.

J