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pHz · Post by **pHz** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:34 pm

topaz wrote:that should read
"but i think Jazz is crap you know ??"

pHz wrote:yeah ... but jazz IS crap you know ??? ...
... nuff said ...
slainte rob

erm ... no it shouldnt ...

slainte

rob

topaz · Post by **topaz** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:35 pm

I know how to cut and paste better than you'

ner

pHz wrote:[jazz]neeyah !!! look at ne ... i know more scales and weird time signatures than you !!! [/jazz]

slainte rob

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:36 pm

topaz wrote:I know how to cut and paste better than you'
ner

no you dont

slainte

rob

topaz · Post by **topaz** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:37 pm

I do I studied it, OK.

I learnt too much tho, now I cut more than paste

pHz wrote:
topaz wrote:I know how to cut and paste better than you'
ner
no you dont

slainte rob

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:39 pm

topaz wrote:I do I studied it, OK.
I learnt too much tho, now I cut more than paste

...

slainte

rob

Genja · Post by **Genja** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:41 pm

If you think Jazz is crap then you need to start learning some theory, before your mind shrivels up, but then make sure that once your fingers learn from that theory, that you let your head forget it all so you can hear the music again.

Jbravo · Post by **Jbravo** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:45 pm

I know a fair bit about theory and find it hard not to analyse chord progressions when listening to a track, and usually get turned off when it's the same 3 or 4 chords used in every other track in the genre... For me, surprising chords are one of the most enjoyable qualities in music. However I do worry that if I take it too far, eventually I'm going to end up doing jazz strictly for musos

which is what I don't want!

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:50 pm

Hehe, I love all this malarky mind.

I'd tune the geeatar in top sonic yoof stylee to some mad tuning yet play some melodic pop song type thing with it. Me geeky mate would work out, err, thats D, C G.

The pop doesn't lie!

Actually, I know f**k all musical theory, but I can do just about anything I want by ear. Instinct me dear boy.

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:50 pm

if you think jazz is great then you need to start forgetting some theory before your pure creativity shrivels up ... but then make sure that once your body learns from that lack of theory that you let your head remember to forget it all so you can feel the music again ...

slainte

rob

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:52 pm

You know, I am really in the minority on this board because I actually like reading music theory. Hell I have even written some.

I think that it is possible to think too much, but I do not think that is what most peoples problem is. I think that people are simply too impatient sometimes, expecting music to happen more quickly than it wants to happen.

Someone (was it Fripp?) once said that the point was to use technique to try to recapture innocence.

I have no idea what that means, but I do think that learning about theory, (whether it be the theory of counterpoint or the theory of granular synthesis) is always a good thing. But it's like losing weight or gaining muscle: if you expect overnight results, you will probably be disappointed.

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 9:57 pm

herodotus wrote:Someone (was it Fripp?) once said that the point was to use technique to try to recapture innocence.

havent heard that ... but theres a parallel in my area of (vague) expertise ... to paraphrase picasso ... it takes a lifetime of being a trained artist to learn how to draw like a child ...

... having said that ... i dont personally agree ... to draw like a child all you have to do is REMEMBER what it was to be a child ...

slainte

rob

donkey tugger · Post by **donkey tugger** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:00 pm

herodotus wrote:You know, I am really in the minority on this board because I actually like reading music theory. Hell I have even written some.

I think that it is possible to think too much, but I do not think that is what most peoples problem is. I think that people are simply too impatient sometimes, expecting music to happen more quickly than it wants to happen.

Someone (was it Fripp?) once said that the point was to use technique to try to recapture innocence.

I have no idea what that means, but I do think that learning about theory, (whether it be the theory of counterpoint or the theory of granular synthesis) is always a good thing. But it's like losing weight or gaining muscle: if you expect overnight results, you will probably be disappointed.

I wouldn't necessarily say it was a bad thing per se. In reality it tends to produce a whole army of widdly graham music school clones playing zx spectrum loading noise steve vai solos ad infinitum (at least on the geetar, point taken..).

Stuff is generally much more fun without rules though. Make up yer own, we wanna be free, and we wanna ride our bikes.

pHz · Post by **pHz** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:02 pm

notice you missed out 'we are young ...'

slainte

rob

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:05 pm

pHz wrote:if you think jazz is great then you need to start forgetting some theory before your pure creativity shrivels up ... but then make sure that once your body learns from that lack of theory that you let your head remember to forget it all so you can feel the music again ...

slainte rob

So this principle of ignorance being superior to knowledge, did it guide you into your chosen career?

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:06 pm

donkey tugger wrote:
herodotus wrote:You know, I am really in the minority on this board because I actually like reading music theory. Hell I have even written some.

I think that it is possible to think too much, but I do not think that is what most peoples problem is. I think that people are simply too impatient sometimes, expecting music to happen more quickly than it wants to happen.

Someone (was it Fripp?) once said that the point was to use technique to try to recapture innocence.

I have no idea what that means, but I do think that learning about theory, (whether it be the theory of counterpoint or the theory of granular synthesis) is always a good thing. But it's like losing weight or gaining muscle: if you expect overnight results, you will probably be disappointed.
I wouldn't necessarily say it was a bad thing per se. In reality it tends to produce a whole army of widdly graham music school clones playing zx spectrum loading noise steve vai solos as infinitum (at least on the geetar, point taken..).

Stuff is generally much more fun without rules though. Make up yer own, we wanna be free, and we wanna ride our bikes.

Yes, but when your bike stops working, what then???

(And did you realize that you paraphrased the band Queen with that metaphor??

Admit it!!!

When no one else is around, you dress up in 70's style spandex outfits and play air guitar to "Bohemian Rhapsody"!!!

You have been caught!)

The curse