KVR Audio

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:05 pm

Lunch Money wrote:Anyone need an MD with mic input? ;)

Not unless it can take (and store) samples, lossless, at CD quality or close to it... *sigh*

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:09 pm

Let's start a petition against sony taking over the world..this can't go on for any longer!

Hink · Post by **Hink** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:19 pm

cptgone wrote:
Cabinfever wrote:they have banned a one-time beta tester
Sony made a deal with the US military: they're gonna give the GI's some Acid!

remember my speciality in the military had to do with gas...and that's nothing funny actually (well here it was

) but they did do tests on soldiers and there was (probably still is) a gas called "BZ Agent" that did just that...made you trip... guess smoe general thought it would be nicer to get everyone wasted before killing them..

cptgone · Post by **cptgone** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:25 pm

snooky wrote:Let's start a petition against sony taking over the world..this can't go on for any longer!

coming from someone with a name that is an anagram of "Sony OK" that's a strange suggestion...

diverdee · Post by **diverdee** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:27 pm

could also be 'K.O. sony'?

herodotus · Post by **herodotus** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:28 pm

Hink wrote:
cptgone wrote:
Cabinfever wrote:they have banned a one-time beta tester
Sony made a deal with the US military: they're gonna give the GI's some Acid!
remember my speciality in the military had to do with gas...and that's nothing funny actually (well here it was ) but they did do tests on soldiers and there was (probably still is) a gas called "BZ Agent" that did just that...made you trip... guess smoe general thought it would be nicer to get everyone wasted before killing them..

Not to mention the fact that they are much easier to kill that way.

snooky · Post by **snooky** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:32 pm

diverdee wrote:could also be 'K.O. sony'?

yep that's it, my secret identity is out...

Zacchino · Post by **Zacchino** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:57 pm

Calm down everybody !!!

Stop spitting on a software you don't even use.

Look, this last 2 moves (Vegas 6 & Ban a betatester) from Sony are indeed, inexcusable.

The community forum is one of the most friendly ever, and I'm talking about users, maybe as friendly as Sonar's and Zynewave's. But the thing is that people get bored repeating the same request, not being heard at all, (or maybe heard 2 years later).

I believe the move from Sonic Foundry to Sony hasn't anything to do with its devellopement. Money, is the only thing that keeps Acid & Vegas from being develloped correctly (they are like 5 or 8 develloppers for 3 huge apps - or something like this, I'm just guessing). So yes, blame Sony's Mediasoftware departement, not its devellopers.

I've been using Acid since v2 (for about 5 years). I've been fighting in the forum with many others to make this app better, with slow results (but at least, results). Now I'm about to move on another app, not because I find Acid buggy, but because of my new needs. Still, Acid has the smoothest workflow ever made IMO, knowing Cubase & Sonar's. I've never been making custom beats as fast as I do in Acid.

What I mean, is that you guys are all right. But don't be stupid, don't spit on a software you've not digged enough, just feel sorry (and that hurts more ^^).

Joxer the Mighty · Post by **Joxer the Mighty** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:59 pm

Well...Acid and Soundforge may suck, but the PSP absolutely kicks ass!

uncadave · Post by **uncadave** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:57 pm

i just upgraded to acidpro5...won't load on my winxp sp2 machine. neither will pro 4, when i tried to reinstall it. on my old machine, pro4 worked on sp1 and still worked after installing sp2, but trying to reinstall after pro 5 not working didn't work either. i absolutely love soundforge....upgraded to sf8, it won't load on my old machine. wouldn't load on the new machine, either, but when it crashed the first time and i selected 'debug', it fixed itself and works now and works well....the vst support absolutely effing rocks.
i don't use the acid very much at all but i've faithfully upgraded because i eventually will use it more. i had about a 2 week dialog with support via email but finally gave up. i'll wait (like somebody else already mentioned) until the next update and try it again....i'm sure it's some conflict with winxp sp2. maybe with some driver conflict, too, but all my other stuff works....o-plat, protools, hopefully my just-arrived-today project5 v2 will work, too.

xander · Post by **xander** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:53 am

Lunch Money wrote:Sony... grr... they didn't learn their lesson from Betamax, and insisted on handling their MiniDiscs with proprietary format crap and a real hassle transferring/managing songs. The only software available was/is complete shite, and the so-called implementation with MusicMatch and iTunes is dodgy at best.

At the time I got my MD, it had far greater battery life than MP3, and that's what I needed most. However, now that MP3 players have caught up, it's time to switch over.

Anyone need an MD with mic input?

I have the Sharp MD -- use it religiously for sampling (excellent recording on MD).

I hear ya on th s/w. Net MD is the worst crap ever made & doesn't work. Sharp uses the Sony implementation and refer you to the Sony site, but Sony appears to have stopped development on Net MD a long time ago (even though they still sell it and hype it up). I gave up trying to make it work, though some frustrated diehards on the Sony Net MD website still bash away with *unanswered requests*.

These f**king Sony people... man.

They develop (or buy out) software products, make lots of beautifully marketed promises in multi-million dollar ads, then after you buy, they toss your otherwise useless ass in the trash.

But I learned my lesson. They'll continue to delete disatisfied customers' posts because, with Sony, it's all about "image".

dburgan · Post by **dburgan** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:20 am

I never buy Sony simply because I refuse to pay a 25% premium for a brand name. So I can't say much about the company because I have never been (and will never be) a customer.

Lunch Money · Post by **Lunch Money** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:42 am

Meffy wrote:
Lunch Money wrote:Anyone need an MD with mic input?
Not unless it can take (and store) samples, lossless, at CD quality or close to it... *sigh*

That's exactly what it can do. The media are the exact same size as a compact disc, so you can record 80 min of stereo material at 16-bit/44.1k, or you can store 160 min. of mono material.

(or any combination of the two, of course)

I was only half serious, but if anyone's truly interested, I know that I'm not planning on doing any field recordings (part of the reason I bought this unit instead of one of its cheaper brethren) and I'll part with it (plus all the media I have, which includes 1 untouched blank MD and 5 (6? 7?) MDiscs that have only been recorded on once and listened to a bunch of times).

If you're even partially interested, it was a MZ-N707 in silver. All accessories (including never-touched car-kit and unused headphones because I don't use earbuds, plus its own rechargable battery, docking stand, and USB cable), manuals, CD's, and even the original box for extremely reasonable price.

I do not have a microphone, so that'll be a purchase you'd have to make in order to do field recordings with it.

Greg

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:05 pm

Anyone need an MD with mic input?

How much will you pay me for taking it off your hands?

kritikon · Post by **kritikon** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 3:20 pm

Calm down everybody !!!

Stop spitting on a software you don't even use.

Nah...I'll never be anything but extremely averse to anything from Sony. I remember vividly that they were the initial company to refuse to accept responsibility for faulty DAT recorders way back when. And they got away with it, so other companies followed suit...but Sony were the ones.
You could buy one of their consumer DATs (not cheap by a long way, at the time), use it in your home studio for hobby purposes without making any money from your music, never move it from its position in your rack, maybe even record only once a month on it (far less than most home users would use them), aciduously clean it and look after it, and Sony would not repair them when they inevitably broke down, even if it was within the guarantee period - even if it had only been used once out of the box. Because they said their products were being used professionally. And their products were for the consumer market (so what they were saying was that if you treated your DAT player better than expected, it was your own fault it broke down.) They refused to fix any DAT player that was used for recording purposes! Isn't that what a DAT player was f**king made for?

Sony deserve every spittle of venom they receive. They make shite products and refuse to take responsibility for them. They wriggled their way out of legal guarantees so that retail shops had to reimburse customers for Sony's faulty goods. They're scum. Cost has nothing to do with why I won't touch Sony. They could make SSL quality desks at Behringer prices and I still would not buy one. I can't imagine the way they treat s/w customers is any different. The Sony motto is "you bought it, so f**k off...we've got your money".

I really don't know how Sony are still in business...they managed to break consumer laws in almost every country and got away with it.

Sony mangles Acid; now bans critics