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SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:02 pm

nuffink wrote:Questioner. Is there anything new on the horizon?
k-v-rist. Lot's of new synths.

Questioner. No. I mean something genuinely new.
k-v-rist. Oh, like a new type of synthesis?

Questioner. Actually I meant something really new that could help me make music on my computer.
k-v-rist. Wow. You're looking for a new way to use your synths, like a new host?

Questioner. There are other ways of making music besides synths you know.
k-v-rist. Sorry, you've lost me.

ROFL - I was saying this exact thing, but your "dialog" approach says it better.

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:11 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:*SOS (Same Old Shit(tm) brought to you by Synthedit and SynthMaker)

Well, I suppose if that's the limit of your imagination, then that will be the limit of what you can produce. SynthMaker, in particular, will allow for a lot more variety than SynthEdit, which is really impressive as it is. With either you can make whatever the hell you want. For me that means usable instruments. I'm nowhere near exhausting the possibilites of subtractive synthesis, I am much more interested in creating more accessible ways to get at the kind of sounds I want to make. Your view is way too one-dimensional.
The demo project that ships with SynthMaker should be enough to convince you of its amazing potential - just go in and draw a new LFO shape, then adjust the sharpness of the curves - f**king AMAZING! I can't wait to get this stupid tour out of the way so I can spend some time with this baby.

Urs · Post by **Urs** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:19 pm

Reaktor 5's Core Technology featuring Core Cells... kinda like Sync Modular on steroids...

... doesn't have pancake support built in tho...

Urs

ianweb123 · Post by **ianweb123** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:41 pm

For me something New is old hardware, I've just got a Casio ht6000 off ebay (don't laugh) and I love the sounds it makes

New instruments/plugs doesn't automatically mean new sounds..!

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:45 pm

I have no imagination. I gave up thinking for my self in 19diggity2. We had to say diggity because the Kaiser stole the number 5.

rsmus7 · Post by **rsmus7** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 1:58 pm

Urs wrote:Reaktor 5's Core Technology featuring Core Cells... kinda like Sync Modular on steroids...
Urs

yes it´s great, but...

Urs wrote:... doesn't have pancake support built in tho...

and thats the only fault in Reaktor 5

beside all the bugs you´ll find fixed in the next 15 updates

Markleford · Post by **Markleford** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:00 pm

Sure, I'm an admitted Garritan zombie, but I think this is going to be really cool, if not groundbreaking:

Garritan Solo Strad

- m

SJ_Digriz · Post by **SJ_Digriz** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 2:40 pm

BONES wrote:
SJ_Digriz wrote:*SOS (Same Old Shit(tm) brought to you by Synthedit and SynthMaker)
Well, I suppose if that's the limit of your imagination, then that will be the limit of what you can produce. SynthMaker, in particular, will allow for a lot more variety than SynthEdit, which is really impressive as it is. With either you can make whatever the hell you want. For me that means usable instruments. I'm nowhere near exhausting the possibilites of subtractive synthesis, I am much more interested in creating more accessible ways to get at the kind of sounds I want to make. Your view is way too one-dimensional.
The demo project that ships with SynthMaker should be enough to convince you of its amazing potential - just go in and draw a new LFO shape, then adjust the sharpness of the curves - f**king AMAZING! I can't wait to get this stupid tour out of the way so I can spend some time with this baby.

Don't confuse your exploration of subtractive synthisis with "creating something new". Synthedit and the like are awesome training grounds for understanding how it all works. I think everyone should take the tour. But, the idea that you have ever created something that is any different or in any way unique is silly. The time you spend putting together the different pieces into whatever routing order you want and building it could just as easily be spent writing a patch in another synth.

That's my opinion, but I have no imagination and am just repeating the party line to avoid being punished by the man.

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androidlove · Post by **androidlove** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 6:16 pm

You could hook up enough effects in strange configs and make sweet music with a fart sample.

danielmm · Post by **danielmm** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:39 pm

Hey, good replies in there.

How about a pad synth used for ambient type music that syncs to your heart beat... sounds shlocky but add brain wave patterns to control your filters and you have the ultimate mood synth....no?...who would make the hardware interface for such a thing?
OK, never mind that....

- Kjaerhus promised us a revolutionary synth...

This could be good!

when???

dano

tconrardy · Post by **tconrardy** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:54 pm

ianweb123 wrote:For me something New is old hardware, I've just got a Casio ht6000 off ebay (don't laugh) and I love the sounds it makes

New instruments/plugs doesn't automatically mean new sounds..!

well....we are in the process of making a PD synth ( The M51) with 8 stage envelope like the old casio's..so that something old that new!

However I think the trick is in making new combinations of synthesis methods, and creating a huge instrument, like in chaining stuff together in eXT or Chainer ( or Tracktions racks)and also effects to make a composite instrument.I don't think we have really explored all thats out there yet...and we keep on wanting MORE!

TC

BONES · Post by **BONES** » Thu Apr 28, 2005 11:09 pm

SJ_Digriz wrote:Don't confuse your exploration of subtractive synthisis with "creating something new".

Yet again, you are thinking in one dimension. "New" doesn't have to mean "new sound". Why shouldn't new mean anything that takes you somwhere you hadn't thought to go before? SE did that for me a few years ago - I had never in my wildest dreams thought of making my own synth plugins. SynthMaker will allow me to take the next step down that same path, into new, unexplored territory.

The time you spend putting together the different pieces into whatever routing order you want and building it could just as easily be spent writing a patch in another synth.

I would equate it more with the time spent learning a new synth. By the time its ready to go you know it inside-out and can get straight into it. Another result is the ability to create dozens of patches in a fraction of the time, so making something in SE is a much better way to go.
Buying a synth with all the features that I wanted would have meant buying something like z3ta+ and putting up with wading through the 90% of features I don't need whenever I want to work with it. Making a synth in SE with exactly all the features I want in a synth, and nothing that gets in the way like multi-page GUI's, is an infinitely better choice.

Is there anything ground breaking on the horizon?