Hans,
Make sure you have NOT enabled "tape to mix" but that you HAVE enabled "tape to control room" Then use the control room outs or the headphone jack instead of the mono send.
Greg
Small audio mixer to use with Tracktion?
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
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- KVRAF
- 3345 posts since 8 Nov, 2003 from Amsterdam
I'm trying that now: I have my PC out in the Tape In, and the Phones out to the PC in. As soon as I pressed Tape to Ctrl Room I had the neighbors coming here what that awful sound was...
But I see what you mean, Tape to Control room, Control room = speakers/phones, and Main Out to PC to record?
I thought I had tried all the variations when I bought the mixer, but apparently I stopped to early, and of course I didn't have good friends then who tried to help me out
But I see what you mean, Tape to Control room, Control room = speakers/phones, and Main Out to PC to record?
I thought I had tried all the variations when I bought the mixer, but apparently I stopped to early, and of course I didn't have good friends then who tried to help me out
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Yup, soundcard's out goes to mixer's "tape in".
Mixer's main out (or "tape out" if you're doing RCA cables; they carry the identical signal, just in two different types of cable) goes to soundcard line in.
Control room or headphones jack goes to your speakers and/or headphones.
Greg
Mixer's main out (or "tape out" if you're doing RCA cables; they carry the identical signal, just in two different types of cable) goes to soundcard line in.
Control room or headphones jack goes to your speakers and/or headphones.
Greg
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
No worries, mate. 
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- KVRian
- 779 posts since 3 Apr, 2003 from UK
I'm using a UB1002 also, and while I appreciate it's not the greatest mixer in the world (pots are a bit flimsy) the noise floor is sufficient for >16 bit recording. They just don't take rough handling very well. It does the job sufficiently well for a home project studio.
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- KVRAF
- 5851 posts since 9 Jul, 2002 from Helsinki
I looked at other options (Soundcraft Compacts, Yamaha MG line), but ended up getting the UB1002 because the others were out of stock. It was also 100 euros cheaper. It's still on trial time, but so far the recordings I've made with a Studio Projects B1 at 24bits have been of _very_ good quality, much better than I expected or needed You can get noise from any budget preamp if you crank the gain.
I think it's also so cheap cause it's so ugly, and the English translation of their manual is shite.
You can get noise from any budget preamp if you crank the gain. I think it's also so cheap cause it's so ugly, and the English translation of their manual is shite.
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- KVRist
- 124 posts since 25 Oct, 2003 from Paris, France
For a few bucks more, the Tapco Blend 6 I use is a great value, clean preamps, reliable as hell and easy to work with.
My2c
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
I have a tiny Behringer mixer driving my headphones for my MIDI workstation at work.. it feels a bit flimsy.. quality has been perfectly good enough for knocking out GM files, but I've not tried the mic pre-amp or the (very simple) EQ..
There's a local venue where I have occasionaly mixed FOH, which has an 8-buss Euro-Desk (or whatever they're called): I don't like the EQ much, but it does an ok job otherwise..
For my own set-up I spent a bit more and got a second-hand Mackie 1402VLZpro.. I have no regrets: its been faultless for nearly two years (since I got it, don't know how old it really is) and the quality is excellent. These days I use its pre-amps in preference to my little Joe-Meek thing for everything except female vocals (where the bass response is less critical, and the opto compressor tends to flatter nicely.)
There's a local venue where I have occasionaly mixed FOH, which has an 8-buss Euro-Desk (or whatever they're called): I don't like the EQ much, but it does an ok job otherwise..
For my own set-up I spent a bit more and got a second-hand Mackie 1402VLZpro.. I have no regrets: its been faultless for nearly two years (since I got it, don't know how old it really is) and the quality is excellent. These days I use its pre-amps in preference to my little Joe-Meek thing for everything except female vocals (where the bass response is less critical, and the opto compressor tends to flatter nicely.)
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- KVRist
- 92 posts since 28 Feb, 2004
I had a Behringer once and sure, it has alot of features, but it is quite noisy. Today I use one of theese:
http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--TAPBLEND6
for the same things. Sounds much better, and the feel is much better. Another bonus is that the mono chanels accepts high-z signals such as guitars plugged right into it. But you get what you pay for: it's more than double the price of that behringer.
http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--TAPBLEND6
for the same things. Sounds much better, and the feel is much better. Another bonus is that the mono chanels accepts high-z signals such as guitars plugged right into it. But you get what you pay for: it's more than double the price of that behringer.
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- KVRist
- 164 posts since 3 Apr, 2005 from Roanoke, VA
You know, LM, one doesn't always have time to go into painful details about why something is or isn't a good value...notice the question asked:
"...Behringer has (a mixer) that will likely suit my meager needs for $35 US, but since that is so cheap, I want to make sure it isn't shit."
So asked, so answered. Of course, it was only my opinion - if you want to know why, read on.
Behringer is a very hit-and-miss manufacturer. Somtimes what you get works, sometimes not. If not, you have to play the return-and-pray game.
Generally, the overall quality of their stuff is pretty poor. Sure, a cheap mixer is what many people want - that's why there's a market for them. But after many years of scavenging for cheap, useable gear I can tell you that it's never a bad idea to try to move up a notch or two, by either saving your pennies or buying seconhand, rather than wasting money on the bottom-end stuff. (Does it seem a bit strange to spend 1/4 of the money you spent on your microphone on the mixer you need to use it?)
Plus, they seem to have a way of producing products that are identical to other, more successful products. One way to cut costs is to let other people do all the R&D, take all the initial risks, and then clone their product & undercut them. Mackie sued Behringer over their mixers - although they lost in court, it's not hard to see the design similarities. Interestingly, there are several other pieces in the Behringer line that bear more than a passing similarity to other company's products too. I'm not privy to their internal workings, but to me it kind of stinks - and I feel better about putting my money elsewhere.
Better?
"...Behringer has (a mixer) that will likely suit my meager needs for $35 US, but since that is so cheap, I want to make sure it isn't shit."
So asked, so answered. Of course, it was only my opinion - if you want to know why, read on.
Behringer is a very hit-and-miss manufacturer. Somtimes what you get works, sometimes not. If not, you have to play the return-and-pray game.
Generally, the overall quality of their stuff is pretty poor. Sure, a cheap mixer is what many people want - that's why there's a market for them. But after many years of scavenging for cheap, useable gear I can tell you that it's never a bad idea to try to move up a notch or two, by either saving your pennies or buying seconhand, rather than wasting money on the bottom-end stuff. (Does it seem a bit strange to spend 1/4 of the money you spent on your microphone on the mixer you need to use it?)
Plus, they seem to have a way of producing products that are identical to other, more successful products. One way to cut costs is to let other people do all the R&D, take all the initial risks, and then clone their product & undercut them. Mackie sued Behringer over their mixers - although they lost in court, it's not hard to see the design similarities. Interestingly, there are several other pieces in the Behringer line that bear more than a passing similarity to other company's products too. I'm not privy to their internal workings, but to me it kind of stinks - and I feel better about putting my money elsewhere.
Better?
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Sure, but it's all the same tired arguments as always. 
But yes, it's better, since you ask.
Notice, however, that in this very thread other people have indicated long and successful histories with their pieces of shit.
But yes, it's better, since you ask.Notice, however, that in this very thread other people have indicated long and successful histories with their pieces of shit.
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- KVRist
- 164 posts since 3 Apr, 2005 from Roanoke, VA
As have others indicated that it is, in fact, shit.
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- KVRian
- 1088 posts since 11 Sep, 2004 from 45° 31' 60N 73° 28' 60W
I have one of those Behringer, a 1002 I think (it's not here at the moment), and no, they're not very good: preamp is noisy and gain control not very linear, fader still let signal through even when at 0dB and, can you believe it, there's no on/off switch on the darn thing (how much more would it have cost to add this high tech feature 
). But at the price point that they're at, I don't think they are any other options out there. If you can live with theses shortcomings and that's all you can afford, why not go for it? It certainly better than nothing if you need a small mixer.
). But at the price point that they're at, I don't think they are any other options out there. If you can live with theses shortcomings and that's all you can afford, why not go for it? It certainly better than nothing if you need a small mixer.Quote of the day: "If you can't answer a man's arguments, all is not lost; you can still call him vile names."--Elbert Hubbard 1856-1915
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- KVRer
- 3 posts since 17 Oct, 2004
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I'm very happy with this little gadget:http://www.soundcraft.com/product_sheet ... uct_id=121 (http://www.soundcraft.com/product_sheet.asp?product_id=121)
The compact4 is a perfect solution for work with audio-cards. It cost only 110 Euro in germay.