School Article...WAREZ, what is the effect of them...

[Hovmod]

- but instead, by using the warez, they do not buy the cheaper product, or support the new developer's freeware. they just act as pure parasites by taking something for free and giving absolutely nothing back

It was a cracked piece of software that got me into this stuff in the first place. Once I saw that I was in it to stay, I bought my tools.
This isn't a justification or an excuse, it's just an example of where you were wrong. In my case several developers, both small and big, gained business from me installing a program a friend gave me. I repeat I'm not advocating the practice, I'm simply rounding off the edges of your black and white statement.

[declassified]

If you are interested in the Open Source / Copyright issue, I always recommend the book "Free Culture" by Lawrence Lessig.

Although it isn't about software but rather about arts copyright, it's well written and will most likely convince you of the idea of open source on art.

Of course, the book is under the Creative Commons License, so you can download it freely here.

[aciddose]

"4. New commerial softwares will continue to rise in price ranges (Think: Tracktion 2 being at least $50 more than Tracktion 1.6) because the labor of making quality products will increase as computers' CPU-Power increases."

O, M, G.

so, basically you have _NO_ clue.

here is my version:
4. New any type of software will continue to suck more as "developers" (syn; cockthieves,) do less work making lower quality and slower code, and expect to get more in return for it. The only hope is that consumers will somehow wise up to how easy software development has become and start refusing to pay such rediculous prices.

personally, i feel even the current model of software business is totally flawed. sure, people argue "but you need to get something in return for the effort put into the software." maybe. but when is the last time you had to agree to and pay licencing fees on eatting a banana which you actually do not have the ability to own. when is the last time you payed money to some person for a product or service which is imaginary. i guess you do it lots.

not all software is bad, and not all software companies use
bad business models, but most is, and most do.

[rawcan]

Hi there,

Piracy ist theft. Thinking anything else or "rounding off any edges of a black and white statement" is either lying or being intentionaly stupid because you want to justify your theft. You know that. You're intelligent enough to understand the concept of what's yours and what's mine. Software doesn't make a difference there. You will for sure know what I'm talking about if you ever tried (or actually did) make a living from selling software or music. You want to get the well deserved money from your hard (heart) work. But maybe only people who try to be honest while being thieves at the same time might understand that.

All the best, FRitz

P.S. Before you blindly start flaming me I can tell you that I once was a thief, too. So I know all the arguments first hand. That doesn't make the thing any tiny bit better though.

[aciddose]

rawcan; can you sue someone for damages if they read your diary?

better business model for software development:

software development contracted by companies in need of
software features which are not available.

this comes down to for example, a large company ordering a package for some internal management, or a group of individuals requesting a feature to be added to a package available for free. the inital costs, though, you say? in reality, to make a working peice of software is extremely simple, for any type of software. the initial costs are minimal, and the long term earnings possible with a peice of software which is often contracted to be ammended is extremely large.

why do we not use this model?

[declassified]

Hi there,

Piracy ist theft. Thinking anything else or "rounding off any edges of a black and white statement" is either lying or being intentionaly stupid because you want to justify your theft. You know that. You're intelligent enough to understand the concept of what's yours and what's mine. Software doesn't make a difference there. You will for sure know what I'm talking about if you ever tried (or actually did) make a living from selling software or music. You want to get the well deserved money from your hard (heart) work. But maybe only people who try to be honest while being thieves at the same time might understand that.

All the best, FRitz

P.S. Before you blindly start flaming me I can tell you that I once was a thief, too. So I know all the arguments first hand. That doesn't make the thing any tiny bit better though.

Fascist, eh?

P.s. Before you blindly start flaming me for calling you a fascist I can tell you that I'm german. So I know all the arguments first hand. The chances that you know better than me are 0%, got it?

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[rawcan]

Fascist, eh?

P.s. Before you blindly start flaming me for calling you a fascist I can tell you that I'm german. So I know all the arguments first hand. The chances that you know better than me are 0%, got it?

Come on,

don't declassify yourself like that. I'm german, too. Try this: Go to your favourite police station and steal some software in front of their eyes. And then call me a fascist again, OK? I will visit you in jail. Lübeck isn't that far away.


Have fun, FRitz

[rawcan]

rawcan; can you sue someone for damages if they read your diary?

Hi aciddose,

I don't write a diary and if I would do so I wouldn't want to earn money with it.
I don't understand your business model.


Best wishes, FRitz

[Urs]

People who use warez'd audio software typically can afford

-> a fast, top notch computer...
-> a top notch midi control keyboard whatsoever...
-> a low latency audio interface...
-> a good home stereo or even a pair of nice monitors...

--> ... the software they need to make music

The whole "I use cracks because I can't afford any software" is totally pointless. It's a short sighted mind fart no more no less.

Cheers,

Urs

[Rangtangtang]

For us who don,t know what does WAREZ mean?. I know its someting to do with stealing. If someone sells/gives you old software with the access code, is that stealing?. And could not someone come up with the same code but with a different GUI. This is a bit like copyrighting thoughts when its put to paper?

[herodotus]

Hi there,

Piracy ist theft. Thinking anything else or "rounding off any edges of a black and white statement" is either lying or being intentionaly stupid because you want to justify your theft. You know that. You're intelligent enough to understand the concept of what's yours and what's mine. Software doesn't make a difference there. You will for sure know what I'm talking about if you ever tried (or actually did) make a living from selling software or music. You want to get the well deserved money from your hard (heart) work. But maybe only people who try to be honest while being thieves at the same time might understand that.

All the best, FRitz

P.S. Before you blindly start flaming me I can tell you that I once was a thief, too. So I know all the arguments first hand. That doesn't make the thing any tiny bit better though.

But I am always arguing against this "black and white" mentality and I have never stolen any software, nor have I ever done any p2p sharing of anything. This kind of ad hominem rudeness is starting to irk me more and more.

News Flash: Not everyone who doesn't agree with your point of view is 'intentionally stupid' or 'trying to justify theft'. Copyright law as it exists today, in the US at least, is a huge mess. I mean, have you ever read the Digital Millennium Copyright Act??

Please, before you go on spouting your rudeness read this article: http://reason.com/0107/cr.mg.copywrong.shtml

Follow up the leads in it. Read some of the authors referenced by it. And go look at that 1000+ page Behemoth called the Digital Millennium Copyright Act.

Then tell me if you still think these laws are well conceived.

[Rangtangtang]

Another thought?, maybe developers should think about quicker turnover now, than wait for someone
to undercut them later? But, Im sure that they have realy thought about that one.

[dasdeck]

Why not making software licenses like that:

You can use Software samples and all virtually endless copyable software as long as you want and with all features, as long as you dont get any money from it. if you get money from it (so it is a Tool for you and actually helps you to manage your life (not entertaining your life!) you have to pay a percentage of your income (lige taxes) until a treshhold is reached (maybe 1000$ for cubase) Of course thats not the right solution for computer games because you'll never earn money with them (exept pro gamers maybe)but why do we even "Work" for our entertainment if there is so much important to do like protecting people from starving.I don't mean that we should stop to entertain each other but why do we think we do something so important that we ask people who work in a hospital or with children to pay us? But even i don't think it is right to earn money on kids and their dreams (to me its a damn crime, but i had to explain further to make my point clear). I think the point is that poeple are selfish and greede on both (almost all) sides. and that will not quit untill we quit beeing animals(never?)
does this make any sence?Of cousre i know Software pirates damage the system in its actual form but the system in its actual form is in my opinion a self damager anyway. (you mean the system works? Ah, you mean the system works for you! A gun works form me too!). If i can't make money with software because people don't want to pay for it i either have to stop making software at all or i just "focus" on other things becyuse there is a Lot to do in this world.
Stay realistic. Stealing software is not at all like stealing a car.or can you copy a car by dragging the mouse? so maybe you can't stay realistic because you aren't. then get back to realism. Realism is Food, Water and Sex

DECK

[orangesuite]

I think that your idea is very valid; if you earn money from something pay go legit. I know lots of people that would fall on both sides of that camp and I agree to an extent. The only thing I don't agree with is your 'Realism is..' you forgot to add in Pot Noodles, but only the Posh ones... yum.