Tracktion Software

pough · Post by **pough** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:49 pm

What exactly is Tracktion doing during a plugin scan? Taking each pluging out for tea and strumpets and having a nice chat? How many hours or days should I wait before ending it and giving up on half of my plugins? This is crazy. What I end up having to do is drag the plugins I don't absolutely need out onto my desktop before Tracktion weakly attempts to read the plugins folder or else I'll be waiting forever.

I just wish that Voxengo didn't start with a V. It gets scanned last. Or, in Tracktion terms, never.

However, to be fair, it seems to recover gracefully from me killing the process...

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:50 pm

heh. t2 isnt that bad though, maybe its just me, but it doesnt seem as awful a wait.

RoNC

ceenda · Post by **ceenda** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:50 pm

You can turn off plugin scan in the Plugin Settings.

I have it turned off by default. When I add new plugins I just go and manually refresh the plugins list via the Plugin Settings.

pough · Post by **pough** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:54 pm

It IS off and it IS T2. The problem is that when I run it for the first time, it HAS to scan the plugins. I've spent the last DAY, on and off, running the plugin scan for a few hours, shutting it down, moving folders of plugins out, trying again, shutting it down, moving more plugins, trying again... still not done scanning.

pough · Post by **pough** » Mon May 09, 2005 3:56 pm

Whatever. I just started another scan and I'm off to work. If it can't scan a few plugins in 8 hours...

pough · Post by **pough** » Mon May 09, 2005 4:07 pm

Sigh. Plugin scanning is very slow as it is, but it looks like NUSofting's Morphing Delay 2.1 causes it to stop dead in its tracks. It even creates a special file called "VSTState.txt" that only has the path of that file in it.

Ah, liqih, what have you done to make jules so unhappy?

sonicsmurf · Post by **sonicsmurf** » Mon May 09, 2005 4:16 pm

Huh?? Plugin scanning is very slow as it is? Here it takes about one second, sure less than two (given that I have turned off plugin scan in the Plugin Settings).
Why is that such a problem? I can only imagine you re-boot your machine several times during a day and for whatever reason re-start Tracktion every few hours (I only start it once in the morning)

spacefox · Post by **spacefox** » Mon May 09, 2005 4:28 pm

@pough:

Pretty unlikely, but do you happen to have some sort of AntiVirus running in the background (or anything similar)?

semiquaver · Post by **semiquaver** » Mon May 09, 2005 4:51 pm

Mine takes about 30 secs for 40 or so plugs. But it periodically decides it doesn't like lounge lizard or hexaline only to change its mind later... definitely flaky but not slow. -- macosx

bk · Post by bk » Mon May 09, 2005 5:07 pm

I have a couple hundred plugs installed and it takes about 5 minutes to do a complete rescan. About 2 minutes to check for new plugs. Not bad, but it would be nice if we could put a checkmark next to the folders we want scanned at startup. That would save me a LOT of time. I've requested this in the past, but I think I'll start a new thread with "FR" in the topic so it can get assimilated into the main feature request list.

darcyb62 · Post by **darcyb62** » Mon May 09, 2005 5:17 pm

I cleaned out my plugins and it runs very quickly now...
I have somehere in the nehborhood of 30 to 40 plugins and a clear and scan takes about a minute.
Looking for new takes less than 10 seconds...
And starting without a scan takes less than 10 seconds as well.

Before I cleaned up it would take a couple of minutes to do a search for new or changed.

valley · Post by **valley** » Mon May 09, 2005 5:23 pm

I think some plugins seem to cause Tracktion to take an innordinately long time to scan.

Perhaps Tracktion is not deallocating resources when scanning, and is bringing your pc to its knees.

Try dividing the plugins up into batches, and introduce new ones say 20 at a time. If Tracktion is told to only look for new plugins, this should take very little time at all.

semiquaver · Post by **semiquaver** » Mon May 09, 2005 5:35 pm

is anyone else seeing Final Mix preset files in the "do not scan" field? I tried chucking them but it seemed to make them afresh...

pough · Post by **pough** » Mon May 09, 2005 8:02 pm

@sonicsmurf: You have an active and lively imagination!

@spacefox: It's not just likely, it's probable. I do have antivirus software running in the background. But I don't think that's what it is. I think it's just that Tracktion does a very intensive plugin check, and things get goofy when plugins don't send back what Tracktion is expecting. I have quite a few other hosts and none of them have this problem, although Minihost was made unhappy by some plugins in the past and Toby fixed it.

@valley: I might just try that. Thanks!

spacefox · Post by **spacefox** » Tue May 10, 2005 12:26 am

pough wrote: @spacefox: It's not just likely, it's probable. I do have antivirus software running in the background. But I don't think that's what it is. I think it's just that Tracktion does a very intensive plugin check, and things get goofy when plugins don't send back what Tracktion is expecting. I have quite a few other hosts and none of them have this problem, although Minihost was made unhappy by some plugins in the past and Toby fixed it.

Try turning off real-time monitoring.

I found that when I have monitoring is enabled, scanning takes ages. When disabled - not so much.

Worth trying.