Selling T2 and keeping T1

[dee ess pee]

I'll go look for the thread where dee ess pee describes why T1 works but T2 doesn't.

Tom

It is called "slow meters". On page 6 right now I think.

I dont know why it does not work. I know what does not work.

[dee ess pee]

If it has all the same bugs, then the bugs in T1 cancel out the bugs in T2, but with T2 you get:

64 bit mixing

A joke yes?

Sampler

Better loop recording

Dont use these

Track freezing

Do not use and T1 has this.

I guess I'm not understanding why such a big gripe against T2 if you like T1.

The UI is very slow here, it takes more cpu for same projects without 64-bit mixing, I require higher buffering for same projects in T1.

It does not matter what features a program has if simple basic recording can not be completely done.

[Frippertronix]

If it has all the same bugs, then the bugs in T1 cancel out the bugs in T2, but with T2 you get:

64 bit mixing

A joke yes?

Sampler

Better loop recording

Dont use these

Track freezing

Do not use and T1 has this.

I guess I'm not understanding why such a big gripe against T2 if you like T1.

The UI is very slow here, it takes more cpu for same projects without 64-bit mixing, I require higher buffering for same projects in T1.

It does not matter what features a program has if simple basic recording can not be completely done.

I don't consider the 64 bit bus a joke at all. It achieves lower distortion in my opinion, and many others agree.

There's been debate as to whether T2 actually consumes more cpu, pound for pound, vs. T1. There is disagreement on this. I think if it consumes more, it isn't much. As far as buffering, I haven't noticed, but you may be right.

If your complaints bother you then obviously you want the T1, but why didn't you notice these problems in the demo?

My opinion is that sound and features are better in T2. If it consumes more power, then a more powerful computer may be in order. Another way to decrease your buffer needs is to get a better system. Wasn't it you that wanted to spare no expense for the sake of music?

If T1 works for you, then great. It sounds like your needs are more simple than mine and a simpler system may well be faster, if that is important to you. I regret that it cost you an extra $20.

[Frippertronix]

I'll go look for the thread where dee ess pee describes why T1 works but T2 doesn't.

Tom

It is called "slow meters". On page 6 right now I think.

I dont know why it does not work. I know what does not work.

Why is a (kind of) slow meter that important? If you see overs, lower your levels or compress the track.

Yes, a fast meter is more accurate, but does that really make "basic simple recording" not possible?

[dee ess pee]

I am sorry flipper, I did not mean for 64-bit to be included in my quote. I was not sure if you are being joking with the first statement.

It's just not the slow meters. The whole GUI is slow. The cursor, the time, the meters, many VST's, the screen switching, waveform drawing, everything is slower.

I can live with just using inspector if it would display at its right speed.

I posted my system specs in the slow meter thread. I think my system is very good for the use I have set for it. I have been trying without overclocking as well and this makes no difference. I have been through trying turning off/on all tweaks in all the variations I can think of. I am still trying to find why this happens.

After all this T1 is working solid and fast. I am just unhappy that I have paid 20$ and spent all this time to make T2 work somehow. Normally you pay people to do work for you, not pay them to make you do more work.

[dee ess pee]

To be clear why I try to make T2 work if T1 already does for me. I want to learn why loop recording has so much talk about it and I want to learn midi.

It is a small thing too, the color of T1 bothers me a lot. I have a well planned colouring of my rooms and it clashes. Not very important but it is something I am sensitive to.

I am new to T1 and T2 both. The platform, the software and many of the concepts are new to me in T2. I want to learn them!

[headquest]

dee ess pee, I thought your original post was a joke, but now I'm beginning to think you meant it

If you really prefer T1 why don't you just reinstall that but keep your T2 license ready for the next time an upgrade comes along?

I think there are some worthwhile and useful improvements in T2 personally, but I agree there are still some issues from T1 that are annoying.

[M'Snah]

I wish to sell my T2. It is unusable and so far a waste of 20$ despite all I can try. My T1 still works great and the bugs that bother me in T1 are still in T2, despite I have checked to make sure they were being reported.

Hopefully this is the right place to ask, can I keep my T1 and sell only T2? Or am I stuck with T2 because I took the upgrade option?

I dont think it would be bad to wait for fixes. I think the many problems with the software does not deserve my 20$ and wasted time waiting.

AFAIK You cannot (legally) sell T2 and keep T1. Nor can you sell the T1 license and keep the upgrade T2 license.

[SaviorNeeded]

Hi dee ess pee. I didn't mean my post to sound flippant but I see it does. Now that you mention your original thread, I remember reading it and thinking, "That's odd." Hopefully, you can resolve any conflicts in your system (if any) and Mackie can eventually find and fix the rest. BTW, I thinks it's funny/cool that you're bugged that T1 doesn't match your studio color scheme! I'm kind of the same way. Somehow, almost everything in mine is either black or white, but that was mostly accidental. Now I'm trying to get everything that way!

Tom

[AD80]

I wish to sell my T2. It is unusable and so far a waste of 20$ despite all I can try. My T1 still works great and the bugs that bother me in T1 are still in T2, despite I have checked to make sure they were being reported.

Hopefully this is the right place to ask, can I keep my T1 and sell only T2? Or am I stuck with T2 because I took the upgrade option?

I dont think it would be bad to wait for fixes. I think the many problems with the software does not deserve my 20$ and wasted time waiting.

Are you drunk?

Why do you ask this?

Maybe I missunderstood your original post. From what you wrote, it sounded like you were trying to sell a complete T2 after you only spent 20 bux to upgrade.

I guess you're only trying to sell the upgrade to T2 by itself and keep T1 right? I'm sure Mackie will let you transfer your T2 licence. You just have to pay the licence transfer fee of $20bux.

[koolkeys]

Not to try and make your problems insignificant, but I do know that for many users, myself included(on Mac AND PC), there are no problems with T2 and rendering or slow meters. So my guess, and it's not really your fault, is just that something in your system is not working well with T2. I don't think they've changed the engine, but with the new metering modes, that may have been redone. But there must be SOMETHING that can be changed. I do hope the glitches get worked out for you, really. I wish I could help more. Good luck!

Koolkeys

[braj]

I have a slow-ass laptop and metering is fine One thing that I find helps with metering in general is to keep the overall filter area small. This doesn't help with speed really, but I think the meters are easier to read when they are more narrow.

[semiquaver]

I have also seen a performance hit moving to T2. Hopefully some optimization will occur in the upcoming point updates.

[headquest]

The performance and GUI refresh are deffinitely slower/less good in T2,... but not unworkable

[ModuLR]

The audio performance for me has seemed a bit better, with the GUI performance being slower.