Tracktion Software

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:15 pm

MT wrote: I never start a song right at the beginning, but always leave at least 4 measures as a lead-in. MT

That's basically the "workaround" for the Tracktion rewire bug. The problems in Tracktion cut in when you try to start a track on the first beat of the first bar.

DHR53 · Post by **DHR53** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:19 pm

Geez, how could this be called Rewire implementation? I can't get Live to do anything with T?? Ughh!

DHR53 · Post by **DHR53** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:20 pm

headquest wrote:
MT wrote: I never start a song right at the beginning, but always leave at least 4 measures as a lead-in. MT
That's basically the "workaround" for the Tracktion rewire bug. The problems in Tracktion cut in when you try to start a track on the first beat of the first bar.

It starts late, no matter where I put the cursor...

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:36 pm

DHR53 wrote:
headquest wrote:
MT wrote: I never start a song right at the beginning, but always leave at least 4 measures as a lead-in. MT
That's basically the "workaround" for the Tracktion rewire bug. The problems in Tracktion cut in when you try to start a track on the first beat of the first bar.
It starts late, no matter where I put the cursor...

Oooo - that's a nasty new variant then! Perhaps the bug is evolving! THen again, you are on a Mac, no? So possibly the behaviour is different there?

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:38 pm

DHR53 wrote:Geez, how could this be called Rewire implementation? I can't get Live to do anything with T?? Ughh!

Yes, I've given up trying to ReWire Tracktion/Live for now.

FWIW, I think that Tracktion is a rather poor rewire host, and that Live is a rather poor rewire slave. So probably tempting fate trying them together!

Reason on the other hand is the ideal Rewire slave. But the issues in Tracktion make Tracktion less useful as a host for Reason.

My recommendation for you is to use Live 4 (great rewire host) with Reason (great rewire slave) together - a fantastic combination

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...and stick to using Tracktion as a standalone application if you are still interested in it.

DHR53 · Post by **DHR53** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:51 pm

Having just bought the boxed version, I had uh, high hopes for it being an inexpensive alternative on the Mac side. I keep finding little... hmmm, difficulties though. ...Live is a great app, but on the Mac, it's cpu hit is apalling! Which led me to more or less leave it behind. Logic is pretty slick at 7.1, and has just about everything you'd need, but it's serious overkill for my needs! I really love Reason, but I regret that there is no way to do audio, and they seem to have gone in a direction... well, not where I wanted it to go! (read: sequencer improvements)! It's heavier now, and unecessarily complex... The combinator's real value is in Live performance application's, so if you were using Reason as a DAW, it's just more automatable parameters to wrestle in lanes, and hand draw, Ugh! Oh well... I'm stil looking, as always!

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Tue May 17, 2005 2:55 pm

DHR53 wrote:Oh well... I'm stil looking, as always!

Uh, yeah! Tracktion is a great application in many ways, but as you say there are "issues"... which in the end mount up...! A great concept, but flawed execution, or whatever the phrase is! Good luck, anyway

MT · Post by MT » Tue May 17, 2005 3:47 pm

headquest wrote:Uh, yeah! Tracktion is a great application in many ways, but as you say there are "issues"... which in the end mount up...! A great concept, but flawed execution, or whatever the phrase is! Good luck, anyway :)

You could say that about any, or all, of the audio apps listed anywhere on this site, regardless of price or platform. Read through the Nuendo forum for a few hours, and you'll be amazed at the bugs users are dealing with (simple things like panning, sluggish GUI, pops & clicks) - in a $2K software package.

MT

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Tue May 17, 2005 4:04 pm

MT wrote:
headquest wrote:Uh, yeah! Tracktion is a great application in many ways, but as you say there are "issues"... which in the end mount up...! A great concept, but flawed execution, or whatever the phrase is! Good luck, anyway
You could say that about any, or all, of the audio apps listed anywhere on this site, regardless of price or platform. Read through the Nuendo forum for a few hours, and you'll be amazed at the bugs users are dealing with (simple things like panning, sluggish GUI, pops & clicks) - in a $2K software package.

MT

That's true enough, but I think that the issues with T2 at present are the most annoying of the five programs I personally use. I'm not talking about feature requests (I could think of feature requests for all five!) - I mean existing features that really don't work. As a general rule I think the other four listed below for the most part fulfil their remit without too much fuss.

Tracktion Software

KVR Audio

T2 and Rewire...