So the question is: are the 64 bit mixing benefits lost when exporting/rendering down to a mere stereo track...
64 bit mixing
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- KVRist
- 182 posts since 25 Nov, 2004 from From Madrid to Heaven
I`ve made some comparations mixing with and without the 64 bits mixing feature, and 64 bits is definitively superior.
So the question is: are the 64 bit mixing benefits lost when exporting/rendering down to a mere stereo track...
So the question is: are the 64 bit mixing benefits lost when exporting/rendering down to a mere stereo track...
Tom
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- KVRAF
- 1615 posts since 28 Mar, 2005
no - the difference you are hearing is in the 24-bit stereo output of your machine after all.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 182 posts since 25 Nov, 2004 from From Madrid to Heaven
semiquaver wrote:no - the difference you are hearing is in the 24-bit stereo output of your machine after all.
Thx semiquaver.
And how about when truncation/dithering to 44.1Khz 16 bits takes place? Will the final sound still be that smooth and clear?
Tom
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- KVRian
- 831 posts since 7 Sep, 2004
You hear 64bit but you don't hear 16bit+dither?
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- KVRAF
- 1615 posts since 28 Mar, 2005
aah Barbarossa makes his appearance!
even when dithering down to 16 bits, 64-bit mixing *will* yield a more accurate result. *How* different in subjective terms is an open question. Try it and see if you can detect a difference.
Something certain (Barbarossa are you listening?) - it will not be worse and it will not cost you a dime.
even when dithering down to 16 bits, 64-bit mixing *will* yield a more accurate result. *How* different in subjective terms is an open question. Try it and see if you can detect a difference.
Something certain (Barbarossa are you listening?) - it will not be worse and it will not cost you a dime.
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- KVRian
- 831 posts since 7 Sep, 2004
semiquaver, you didn't get it.
The point is: ppl are asking others what they should hear (not very clever anyway), but on the other hand they even claim to hear subtle nuances...
Sometimes i'm wishing back the ppl from good old Logic forum at Sonikmatter - the level is way higher, far more professional attitude with obviously much worse ears than in this forum full of "golden" amateur ears asking others what they are hearing, but needing 64bit-FP...
The point is: ppl are asking others what they should hear (not very clever anyway), but on the other hand they even claim to hear subtle nuances...
Sometimes i'm wishing back the ppl from good old Logic forum at Sonikmatter - the level is way higher, far more professional attitude with obviously much worse ears than in this forum full of "golden" amateur ears asking others what they are hearing, but needing 64bit-FP...
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
seems like a decent question. how does one get the benefits of 64bit mixing into a stereo 16bit 44khz wav?
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Perfect Solitude Perfect Solitude https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=63246
- Banned
- 53 posts since 29 Mar, 2005
The floating point resolution used in the accumulator (mixing) will have effect on the round down errors in the final stage. Less round down errors = higher fidelity.
And when dithering to fixed point 16bit, it's really a different kind of resolution loss, that can be masked with dithering. Personally I use Pow-r(2) for this.
And when dithering to fixed point 16bit, it's really a different kind of resolution loss, that can be masked with dithering. Personally I use Pow-r(2) for this.