Your personal business is your personal business. In the end you have done wrong to me and others. When it comes down to it, I'm your customer and not your friend. I didn't not buy into a friendship with you. I bought a product that I felt was sound at the time. Mixing your personal issues with your business issues is bad form. Going on and on with it makes you look worse in the end.WilliamK wrote:
Is funy on how easy you lose friends at the first crises... I can only imagine other people that have DAILY problems...
Wk
What if you DONT 'save' Wusik?
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- KVRist
- 216 posts since 3 Aug, 2004 from Centreville, VA
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- KVRian
- 1238 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from Kentucky
As a long time purchaser of his products I think it is time to accept an end to an era. The best thing William can do, IMHO, is get a day job to pay the rent and try to recover financially. I know it has been suggested before and he refused, but sometimes you have to do what you have to do. Programming VSTi's may be more enjoyable if you don't have to sell X number of units to pay the rent. Surely someone that can program Wuzik Station can get a decent job as a programmer.
All I need to be happy is one more VSTi.
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- Beware the Quoth
- Topic Starter
- 35506 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
munchkin quoth
In kevvvv's defence he did criticise DC at the time and William's business acumen in the Wusik forum yesterday.
And yet still finds the need to make petty little jibes because it happened to be me that wanted to air a legitimate concern.
D'you think he's just pissed off because I voiced concerns the last time, and, rather than just accept I might have had a little more insight than he was willing to admit, he's trying to make a personal issue out of it? Because that's what I think. He's pissed off because he was proven wrong, and that's somehow my fault.
In kevvvv's defence he did criticise DC at the time and William's business acumen in the Wusik forum yesterday.
And yet still finds the need to make petty little jibes because it happened to be me that wanted to air a legitimate concern.
D'you think he's just pissed off because I voiced concerns the last time, and, rather than just accept I might have had a little more insight than he was willing to admit, he's trying to make a personal issue out of it? Because that's what I think. He's pissed off because he was proven wrong, and that's somehow my fault.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
(at a lot of things here BTW - not specifically the rabbyt)
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- KVRAF
- 2336 posts since 13 Oct, 2002 from Terra Firma
That's rich William. Have you ever thought about any of us having a crisis because you're keeping our $30?WilliamK wrote:Is funy on how easy you lose friends at the first crises... I can only imagine other people that have DAILY problems...Sickle666 wrote:Then why don't YOU give him the $10,000 he's hustling for, jackass?kodama wrote:My motivation is that I REALLY want WS to be developed further, and I don't want everyone to whine and drag William's name through the dirt and make this into a huge drama queen spectacle.
And if you aren't owed money, then STFU!
And YES, he DOES owe me money, and has for some time now, and no, I'm a bit tired of 'creative solutions', so how about YOU shut the f**k up, m'kay?
You're pretty dedicated, I can smell the stench of thoughtless devotion having once been a victim of it myself..Hey, so did he give you an illegal code for Eve out of pure nastiness after he left Dash like he did with me?
How many PM's has he sent you asking you to bail him out of this already? I've recieved quite a few in my time..
Wk
I'm sick of your cap in hand attitude. Do you think you're the only one who has problems financially, emotionally, socially?
The stupid thing is that instead of treating you like a business you sucked us in so much that the fake concept of friendship clouded what you really are - another failed businessman.
If you're looking for goodwill then honour your customers and let's have no more false talk of 'friendship' while doing business with us.
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- Banned
- 6127 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Et in Arcadia Ego
And now that you are turning against your 'friends' you're finishing the meltdown that you have started. These threads can be deleted all day long, but I think enough people today have had a clear insight into your real character. You made a fantastic instrument and then ruined it with endless pandering and blackmail. I totally regret the time & effort I spent in my 'friendship' with you. I looked the other way with the Reaktor ensembles that were made with a craked version of Reaktor & will not open in registered R3, I laughed conspiratorily with you when you sent me the code to Eve and download links for all the soundsets when you were no longer affiliated with Dash even as I hit the delete button..I said fine when you dropped the drum machine & decided to keep my money. I even kept my mouth shut in the first group buy thread when you made me look like a f**king idiot when you said that you didn't know what I was talking about regarding the modular FX plug you agreed to make..I sat in wonder at your private messages about how much you hate your customers & how you wish they would all just shut up..I've put up with alot of shit from you, and in hindsight I really have no idea why.
Just f**k off, William. I'm over it, sincerely so..
Just f**k off, William. I'm over it, sincerely so..
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- KVRAF
- 2336 posts since 13 Oct, 2002 from Terra Firma
I think you initiated the thread out of legitimate concern. I welcome that. You have the right to state your opinion on any matter as far as I'm concerned. Everyone else has so why not you? After all, kevvv ain't shy at coming forward on things he feels strongly about!whyterabbyt wrote:munchkin quoth
In kevvvv's defence he did criticise DC at the time and William's business acumen in the Wusik forum yesterday.
And yet still finds the need to make petty little jibes because it happened to be me that wanted to air a legitimate concern.
D'you think he's just pissed off because I voiced concerns the last time, and, rather than just accept I might have had a little more insight than he was willing to admit, he's trying to make a personal issue out of it? Because that's what I think. He's pissed off because he was proven wrong, and that's somehow my fault.
If kevvv is baiting you then it just means the thread goes off on a tangent. Is it really worth giving a damn what he thinks about your intentions? I don't agree with him and you've told him off so maybe it's quits?
Or else we could put you both in a ring full of custard, wearing tutu's and armbands and see who wins. You pair of curmudgeons, you!
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- KVRist
- 146 posts since 27 Jan, 2005
What about it we let them fight against this sweetheart here:munchkin wrote:Or else we could put you both in a ring full of custard, wearing tutu's and armbands and see who wins. You pair of curmudgeons, you!
cheers,
Chris
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- KVRAF
- 2935 posts since 14 Dec, 2003 from Edinburgh
Sickle666 wrote: I looked the other way with the Reaktor ensembles that were made with a craked version of Reaktor & will not open in registered R3,
i'm trying to think of the appropriate moral tale phrase thingy (what are they called again?) that suits this situation... from user to victim or something... pah my memory aint what it used to be....
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- KVRAF
- 1617 posts since 2 Dec, 2003
Tonmann wrote:What about it we let them fight against this sweetheart here:munchkin wrote:Or else we could put you both in a ring full of custard, wearing tutu's and armbands and see who wins. You pair of curmudgeons, you!
cheers,
Chris
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- KVRist
- 397 posts since 7 Jun, 2003 from Sedna the Red Planet
The only way WK can get out of this mess is to code the v2 upgrade then sell it - not ask for money up front. If he isn't in a position to do that then it is best that he does sell and walk away and then give refunds to people who have pre-paid.
I think he has the abillty to pull this off - it's up to him if he is willing to make the effort
In the long one it would be better if he worked for someone else as it seems he is useless at the business side of things
I think he has the abillty to pull this off - it's up to him if he is willing to make the effort
In the long one it would be better if he worked for someone else as it seems he is useless at the business side of things
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- KVRian
- 1166 posts since 16 Aug, 2004
Much appreciated!jtxx000 wrote:btw if wusikstation does go under i'll make an app to convert WusikSND files to sfz/wav files...