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jens wrote: one of the reasons I stopped working with Tracktion is that my projects often use too much cpu to be processed in realtime but rendering (as ad80 suggested) adds another track...
I think in Tracktion you can "Render and replace" so that there isn't another track. I think this is fine, except that the bit depth of the resulting render is the default for your soundcard, rather than the floating-bit :shrug:
...and there aren't folder tracks and you can't lock the height of minimised tracks and so everything became really cluttered rather fast and... :bang: - you now see why it concearns me? ;-) - oh and b.t.w.: V2 has improved these issues one single bit... :shrug:
So in eXT how do you cope when you run out of CPU grunt? Does it have a better freeze function? (...and did it have that when you switched? i.e. was that what drew you to eXT?)

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pHz wrote:you see ... add the IMO and its all gravy !!!

slainte :D rob
gravy? :? :help:

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heehee ... crap UK slang ...

... gravy - the thing that makes your boring meal tasty ...

... if its ALL gravy - everything is good ... nothing average ...

(hope that makes vague sense)

slainte :? rob

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headquest wrote:
jens wrote: one of the reasons I stopped working with Tracktion is that my projects often use too much cpu to be processed in realtime but rendering (as ad80 suggested) adds another track...
I think in Tracktion you can "Render and replace" so that there isn't another track. I think this is fine, except that the bit depth of the resulting render is the default for your soundcard, rather than the floating-bit :shrug:
not at all fine... - your midi is lost and for audio it's destructively - that's totally contrary to the concept of freezing...
...and there aren't folder tracks and you can't lock the height of minimised tracks and so everything became really cluttered rather fast and... :bang: - you now see why it concearns me? ;-) - oh and b.t.w.: V2 has improved these issues one single bit... :shrug:
So in eXT how do you cope when you run out of CPU grunt? Does it have a better freeze function? (...and did it have that when you switched? i.e. was that what drew you to eXT?)

- in eXT you can collapse a track with a single click/keystroke and it stays collapsed until you expand it again

- eXT has folder-tracks (thus you can render into the same folder as your original track is and the collapse the original track)

- eXT rendering let's you:

mute, solo, pan freezed tracks besides enabling you to adjust the gain

and it even offers you to either freeze with or without the insert fx


- eXt offers to only render selected clips and to only render within the locators

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pHz wrote:heehee ... crap UK slang ...

... gravy - the thing that makes your boring meal tasty ...

... if its ALL gravy - everything is good ... nothing average ...

(hope that makes vague sense)

slainte :? rob
o.k. - I see - but that 'imo' was already in my original sentence you quoted! ;-)

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hell ... unless youve sneakily edited ...

slainte :oops: rob

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...

slainte :lol: rob

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pHz wrote:hell ... unless youve sneakily edited ...

slainte :oops: rob
if I had after your reply it would be written below my post :wink: :)

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Gotcha, that's certainly more featured 8) - thanks for the heads up. I recently downloaded the eXT demo again, but like diverdee, I'm tending to use it as a plug-in within Live 4 at present. It's pretty cool in that context, but I'm not sure how to get to the point of using it as a host in its own right. I'm thinking it may be quite complex, but I've heard there's some tutorials somewhere, so I'll have to spend some time on it.

Do you know, out of interest - if I used eXT as an "instrument" on a Live 4 track, opened up a couple of VSTis within eXT... could I then freeze them within eXT as a VST and free up more CPU within Live itself?

Cheers Jens.

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pHz wrote:heehee ... crap UK slang ...

... gravy - the thing that makes your boring meal tasty ...

... if its ALL gravy - everything is good ... nothing average ...

(hope that makes vague sense)

slainte :? rob
never knew that, thought it was a crap yank saying

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pHz wrote:heehee ... crap UK slang ...

... gravy - the thing that makes your boring meal tasty ...

... if its ALL gravy - everything is good ... nothing average ...

(hope that makes vague sense)

slainte :? rob
There is an instance of that phrase being used in "Last Exit to Brooklin" by Hubert Selby, think it means money, and therefore all is good financially.

or summink :wink:
Phil

"The fool who persists in his folly will become wise" - William Blake
*No more band for me* | **My Host**

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Kriminal wrote:
pHz wrote:heehee ... crap UK slang ...
... gravy - the thing that makes your boring meal tasty ...
... if its ALL gravy - everything is good ... nothing average ...
(hope that makes vague sense)
slainte :? rob
never knew that, thought it was a crap yank saying
might originally be yank TBH ... first i heard of it though was when so solid et al first broke here ...

slainte :? rob

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you got there first, Krim!
Phil

"The fool who persists in his folly will become wise" - William Blake
*No more band for me* | **My Host**

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headquest wrote: Do you know, out of interest - if I used eXT as an "instrument" on a Live 4 track, opened up a couple of VSTis within eXT... could I then freeze them within eXT as a VST and free up more CPU within Live itself?

Cheers Jens.
for sure you could! :D


Cheers! :-)

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Bunnyboy wrote:
pHz wrote:heehee ... crap UK slang ...
... gravy - the thing that makes your boring meal tasty ...
... if its ALL gravy - everything is good ... nothing average ...
(hope that makes vague sense)
slainte :? rob
There is an instance of that phrase being used in "Last Exit to Brooklin" by Hubert Selby, think it means money, and therefore all is good financially.
or summink :wink:
didnt know that ... but i think the original meaning is from the same kind of root ...

slainte :? rob

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