Tracktion / Ableton Live ReWire issues

[jalapeno]

Well swapping the 1.5 & 1.4.7 ReWire Libraries didn't do anything. Interesting that after I (1) delete the T2 Filter (2) Close Live and (3) Close T2 - there's a Traction process still running- and I can't kill it without re-booting.

Anyone care to host a 1.4.4.71 version ReWire.dll and I'll that a go as well - last hope for us I fear. Pretty please ?

Bump. Anyone help with the ReWire.dll ?

The Traction process left running was JUCEwindow (or something similar). XP complained that it weasn't responding when I shutdown.

[headquest]

Anyway, glad it all works for me. Sucks being you

I'm very glad it works for you, braj

So, in Live's Audio Out, you can't select Rewire Out and the channels you want it to use?

Yes you can... I have been trying to take audio out on Master L/R, which works fine in when using Adobe Audition or Cubase SX as hosts... are you suggesting that in Tracktion you need to switch to a different bus, and if so why? This is different from other hosts and I don;t see it documented Also, I don't have to do this with Reason in Tracktion, where the Master L/R work fine

And in T2 you can't go to the Rewire filter and select those channels there and make it work?

I'll check it on a different bus later on, if this is how you think it should work/works for you...

Can you post screenshots of these areas? I really get this feeling that it's just some misunderstanding of how to set up rewire properly.

If it still doesn't work on other busses, I'll do that tonight

Kind of like the issue you had with your Ozone.

I don't understand the comparisson The problem with the Ozonic isn't solved... the only reason I've stopped mentioning it is that I've basically given up trying to get it to work.

Beno and pHz (and you) took me through all the settings, and confirmed I was doing everything correctly, so this was not a case of user error. We also found though that T2 was not storing the correct settings when I shutdown - each time I reopened T2 I had to go back into the MIDI on the settings page and reconfigure it...

Also, although there was a point where it seemed to be working fine, I mentioned that the GUI slowdown was significantly worse when I used MIDI controller mapping, and that the program was sometimes crashing.

I said I would post back if I had further problems with it, and wrongly I failed to do that (because I became so exasperated in the end that, as I say I gave up on it.) Also, because certain people started calling me a "troll" and attacking me whenever I posted questions/issues, I've been gradually withdrawing from posting on this forum. There are some genuinely helpful people of course, but the overall tone here has been very offputting. I'm still here trying to figure out solutions to one or two outstanding issues where the threads are "on course" to be useful, though, such as this one

But unfortunately, as far as I am concerned MIDI controller mapping simply doesn't exist for me in Tracktion 2 at present. I keep testing it whenever M-A release new drivers, of course. Also there is a small hardware fault on my Ozonic and the shop are exchanging it for a new one, so obviously I'll try again with that.

Anyone who plans to use T2 as their main host should avoid Ozonic as a controller, because there are clearly other controllers that are working just fine. And from the moments when it did briefly work I can see that the controller mapping is a good addition.

On the plus side, the Ozonic is a fantastic piece of kit that has revolutionised the way I work in both Reason and Live, bringing those programs to life in a new way

[headquest]

Anyone help with the ReWire.dll ?

I only have 1.4.7.74

The Traction process left running was JUCEwindow (or something similar). XP complained that it weasn't responding when I shutdown.

I've had that too, but didn't need to reboot...

[braj]

Sorry headquest, I didn't know you never solved the Ozonic issue.

Regarding ReWire, I'm not suggesting you need to use anything other than master l/r. T2's Rewire filter defaults to l/r.

What I wanted to ensure was that on each Live track you selected ReWire and Mix L/R. My thinking was that some other rewire hosts may take the whole master out from Live and use that, and not require you selecting the outputs per track. It's just a wild guess.

[braj]

Funny, I just tried to slave Reason to Live and Reason didn't launch in slave mode. No wonder so many people despise ReWire.

[jalapeno]

It's just a wild guess.

Mate, wild guess away. Nice to know somebody is trying to help. Headquest and I are running out of ideas.

[headquest]

Sorry headquest, I didn't know you never solved the Ozonic issue.

Well, at least we did get it to allow the keyboard note input to work again after resetting everything.

Regarding ReWire, I'm not suggesting you need to use anything other than master l/r. T2's Rewire filter defaults to l/r.

Excatly. But...

What I wanted to ensure was that on each Live track you selected ReWire and Mix L/R. My thinking was that some other rewire hosts may take the whole master out from Live and use that, and not require you selecting the outputs per track. It's just a wild guess.

It turned out to be a productive guess . Having played with different options it turns out that - while it doesn't work using the default Mix L/R, on my system it IS WORKING using busses 3/4.

I'm sure this is not how it should be , (in Audition for example, it simply uses the Mix L/R without problems unless you set it up another way) but at least it provides a "workaround" that I can use

Jalpeno - any progress with this at your end?

Also, DHR53 and others who posted problems earlier in the thread - does this solve any of your problems?

One last thing about this though - Using this method I got it working, but the first note drop via rewire issue seems to appliy in Live 4 just the same as in Reason . So as well as using an alternative bussing option as a workaround, you will also need to use the blank bars at the beginning workaround in order to get the results you are after.

[headquest]

Funny, I just tried to slave Reason to Live and Reason didn't launch in slave mode. No wonder so many people despise ReWire.

That's weird - I've never had that

Try again and let us know if it works the next time

[braj]

Tried again, didn't work. It's OK, I haven't been using Reason much lately anyway. I was just investigating your issue and came across it.

Glad you've got some progress with Live though. Still sucks to be you

[headquest]

Glad you've got some progress with Live though. Still sucks to be you

[headquest]

Still sucks to be you

You've not seen my wife, though

[ModuLR]

I've been quietly trying to replicate this problem, and I just can't get it to occur on my system, nor does the first beat drop... The only lesson I learned out of it was don't change the samplerate while rewired as it made everything unstable. I know it doesn't help, but as a whole it works just as it should here.

[braj]

Still sucks to be you

You've not seen my wife, though

I'm not going there, or I could destroy you!

[jalapeno]

I've been quietly trying to replicate this problem, and I just can't get it to occur on my system, nor does the first beat drop... The only lesson I learned out of it was don't change the samplerate while rewired as it made everything unstable. I know it doesn't help, but as a whole it works just as it should here.

First note Rewire bug is easy to replicate. T master / Rsn Slave. In an empty rack create ReDrum instrument, and set beats at 1/2/5/9/13 in the bar - press play. You get 2/5/9/13 in the first bar and 1/2/5/9/13 thereafter.

Just trying Headquest's Channel 3/4 hint - I'll report back.

[ModuLR]

Sorry if I was unclear jalapeno... I'm aware of the reason midi drop issue... I've was using the 4.1.2 demo, and I forgot to pull the midi drum track to the top in Live. It does indeed drop there. The audio is triggered in a timely fashion, but the midi is dropped at the start.