Blue Screen of Death
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- KVRist
- 111 posts since 23 May, 2005 from Oaktown
I have been getting the blue screen of death occasionally while using tracktion. (PIII 256K ram w/ US-428 sound interface). No other applications are running simultaneously and I only had 8 tracks of audio playing with no effects. Could the lack of memory be the problem?
I am thinking of upgrading to a new laptop soon with more memory and a faster processor. Would this help?
I am thinking of upgrading to a new laptop soon with more memory and a faster processor. Would this help?
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
it sound like it could well be a hardware conflict so a new laptop would defenetly fix this, most hardware problems with tracktion are the sound device! give ASIO4ALL a try & see if that helps you?
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
virtualsamana wrote: 256K ram
You running win98? More RAM can't hurt, but try unticking 'use realtime priority mode' in the audio settings page, if its enabled..
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- KVRist
- 113 posts since 6 Jan, 2005
Application software does not cause BSODs. BSODs are caused by a) malfunctioning/misconfigured hardware or b) a malfunctioning/misconfigured device driver. Running 256MB RAM does not cause a BSOD, unless the RAM is defective.
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
Totally OT: I spent about two months last year trying to debug some research code a co-worker and myself were working on because every so often the code would cause linux to explode rather angrily.titanium wrote: unless the RAM is defective.
I went near out of my mind trying to work out where I was screwing up, and eventually gave up and learnt to allow a little extra time for number crunching sessions
By chance a few months later we were running some system diags on my coworker's PC. It turned out that one of the DIMMs was flaky. Out of curiosity I re-ran my code with the buggered DIMM removed, and quite amazingly it ran flawlessly for two days solid.
I was so happy I hit someone.
Someone shot the food. Remember: don't shoot food!
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
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- KVRian
- 1112 posts since 17 Jul, 2003 from Kauai, HI
Is that why they're only giving you water for breakfast?
Tom
Tom
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 111 posts since 23 May, 2005 from Oaktown
thanks for the help. Darn. I hope it's not my US-428. I am really enjoying that interface. I am going to go to their website and install the latest drivers. I never have a problem with the BSOD when I use my 428 with Ableton live though so it strikes me as strange that it isn't getting along with tracktion.
I thought it may be because I am using a computer as my school laptop and also a music DAW. That is I am running office, firefox, and rhapsody on it as well as tracktion. That's why I thought it might be a good idea to upgrade to a new laptop.
I am runnging win xp but just checked my ram again and realized it's a paltry 128 MB. Not 256K as IIR pointed out. (Damm, that takes me back to my C64 days.
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I thought it may be because I am using a computer as my school laptop and also a music DAW. That is I am running office, firefox, and rhapsody on it as well as tracktion. That's why I thought it might be a good idea to upgrade to a new laptop.
I am runnging win xp but just checked my ram again and realized it's a paltry 128 MB. Not 256K as IIR pointed out. (Damm, that takes me back to my C64 days.
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- KVRist
- 113 posts since 6 Jan, 2005
XP on 128MB will still not cause BSOD. 128MB is the bare minimum for Office 2003. I bet your system spends a lot of time thrashing the disk (paging) when running Orifice. I bet it's unbelievably slow from all the paging.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 111 posts since 23 May, 2005 from Oaktown
Titanium,
Would tracktion be effected by paging even if orifice isn't running?
Would tracktion be effected by paging even if orifice isn't running?
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- KVRist
- 113 posts since 6 Jan, 2005
No. However, Office installs a bunch of additional background stuff like its toolbar, osa.exe (helps office apps start faster), and of course whatever osa.exe loads. Office is a resource hog, even when none of the apps are vivibly running. So it's using RAM that would otherwise be available.
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- KVRist
- 164 posts since 3 Apr, 2005 from Roanoke, VA
However...XP is starved with 128 MB RAM. The minimum stated requirement for XP is 256 MB, which means that you really want 512 MB to be happy. Perhaps all the paging to disk is contributing to the problem? You say you're running a laptop - laptop drives are also pretty slow for audio work.
Methinks you need an upgrade.
Methinks you need an upgrade.
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- KVRist
- 488 posts since 2 Mar, 2004
I use a Tascam Us122... Not quite the same but I'm sure the driver sets are similar enough. I had been running it on an old PIII notebook and desktop. I would have BSODs on both. I was able to resolve the problem on the notebook by finding an upgrading USB driver for the notebook, but my only resolution for the desktop was to upgrade. It seems that the Tascam driver has problems when cpu utilization gets high. Even with my current setup funny things start to happen with sound when I get into the red zone but it hasn't locked.
When trying to work through the issues on my old machines I found the problems increased when I installed SP1 but decreased when SP2 went in.
When trying to work through the issues on my old machines I found the problems increased when I installed SP1 but decreased when SP2 went in.
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- KVRist
- 113 posts since 6 Jan, 2005
[url=ttp://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/upgrading/sysreqs.mspx]Not according to Microsoft[/url]--see below. They claim it will even run on 64MB. But I agree 256K is a practical requirement for reasonable performance.willowhaus wrote:However...XP is starved with 128 MB RAM. The minimum stated requirement for XP is 256 MB
Windows XP Professional System Requirements
Published: August 24, 2001
Here's What You Need to Use Windows XP Professional
• PC with 300 megahertz or higher processor clock speed recommended; 233 MHz minimum required (single or dual processor system);* Intel Pentium/Celeron family, or AMD K6/Athlon/Duron family, or compatible processor recommended
•128 megabytes (MB) of RAM or higher recommended (64 MB minimum supported; may limit performance and some features)
•1.5 gigabytes (GB) of available hard disk space*
•Super VGA (800 x 600) or higher-resolution video adapter and monitor
•CD-ROM or DVD drive
•Keyboard and Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device

