KVR Audio

insaneacyde · Post by **insaneacyde** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:19 am

nomis wrote: I have often falled in the trap of letting my sounds be way too big... minimize them, make them fit in the arrangement as well as the mix. balance.

this is also a very good point. phat sounds can overwhelm the bassline. When I played guitar in a metal band I always cranked the bass on my amp, we tuned down as well. The sound of our band was always muddy until one day I forced myself to trim the bass on my guitar, wow, it made so much difference to our whole sound! The bass guitar became a defined entity instead of a rumble and the double kick drum came forward as well. I felt like such a poophole for not seeing the problem was me!

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:31 am

Yeah, you just noitce that when starting to record and mix by yourself.
Even while I love fat guitar sounds (being a guitarist as well), I find myself allways applying quite some lowcut on about all of them in my mixes. And, rather obvious, this of course also applies to band playing.

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Tue May 31, 2005 10:48 am

hujaboy wrote:Secondskin every word u saied is 100%

this is why i sample the instruments to a sampler.

also about velocity.

uh, back from hiatus.

one thing I don't understand is why is it better to use samples? the only reason I can think of is the phase reset, but that can't be the only one?

stefancrs · Post by **stefancrs** » Tue May 31, 2005 11:26 am

Sure it is

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Tue May 31, 2005 11:30 am

stefancrs wrote:Sure it is :)

but why dont just use synths that have that as an option?

stefancrs · Post by **stefancrs** » Tue May 31, 2005 11:31 am

Maybe because they are few? I dunno. The one I'm working on resets its phase

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Tue May 31, 2005 11:36 am

hmm, I don't think so .. mosts synths I've tried for bass has phase reset .. I think seconskin would have mentioned it if it was so ..

SecondSkin wrote:
1) In general the subtractive VA's weren't very good at it -- some degree of mudiness everytime, even with alot of tweaking (usually ending up very close to ahja's recommendations). I had the best luck with Polyiblit and Triangle2, but just marginally.

2) FM synths def. work better than VA.

3) Sample based works best of all (by far)

...blaablaa...

but still, this is a mystery .. secondskin, hujaboy? .. any comments?

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 5:08 pm

parky · Post by **parky** » Wed Jun 29, 2005 6:32 pm

hjack wrote:vurt is a synth

Actually, vurt is an addled muppetweed, and proud of it. At least yesterday he was.

williandiesel · Post by **williandiesel** » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:49 am

got sytrus vst

made something like a part of a sine wave, with some harmonics on the oscilator.
them you got some reall full sound, well, for the kind of sound i think you want, put the attack at max, and don't use too much points on the envelope, just one or two, and release them to the time you want. them you will probably think that it's not the sound you really want, but there is an equalizer on sytrus on the main painel. it's kinda weird but that really open your mind.

sytrus got really clean shapes, it's a great vst.

hope this was helpfull.

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:55 pm

yeah, i've been using sytrus for a long time now .. as you can see from this thread ..

.. but i want to go further ..

vb-1 still sounds better i think ..

i've made some vb-1 emulators in reaktor, but reaktor doesn't seem to be "precise enough" ...

i'd like to combine sytrus and the envelopes and waveforms from vb-1 .. then we would be getting somewhere ..

moonlite · Post by **moonlite** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:59 pm

btw, tried trilogy at a friends house (who isn't into my kind of stuff, so he couldn't really help), and didn't like the sounds at all .. in fact it seemed so horrible, that i didn't even bother going through all the sounds, since there are quite many of them ..

if you recommended some specific sounds i guess i could try it again .. and they better be good! ;)

S.B.G · Post by **S.B.G** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:32 am

moonlite wrote:btw, tried trilogy at a friends house (who isn't into my kind of stuff, so he couldn't really help), and didn't like the sounds at all .. in fact it seemed so horrible, that i didn't even bother going through all the sounds, since there are quite many of them ..

if you recommended some specific sounds i guess i could try it again .. and they better be good!

hey dude PM me i can help

runagate · Post by **runagate** » Sun Jul 02, 2006 5:43 pm

S.B.G wrote:
moonlite wrote:btw, tried trilogy at a friends house (who isn't into my kind of stuff, so he couldn't really help), and didn't like the sounds at all .. in fact it seemed so horrible, that i didn't even bother going through all the sounds, since there are quite many of them ..

if you recommended some specific sounds i guess i could try it again .. and they better be good!
hey dude PM me i can help

Reading this thread has been like sitting in on the qualifying rounds for the Auctioneering Competition of the Special Olympics.

What a depressing thing to start my day.

articulating, crisp 1/16 bass