When I try and merge 2 MIDI clips together, it takes a long time. Yesterday I was doing a project for a friend which involved pasting together 2 MIDI clips that had a total time length of 11 minutes. It must have taken over 30 seconds for T2 to do it. Even on short clips there is a delay. It used to take a bit of time in T1 but nothing like this!
Does anyone have any feedback/advice on this?
Thanks
Simon
Merge MIDI clips takes ages in T2
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- KVRist
- 144 posts since 10 Mar, 2004 from Brighton, England
...and so it goes (Kurt Vonnegut)
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
really long MIDI clips can be kind of unweildy
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- KVRist
- 123 posts since 14 Oct, 2004 from Derbyshire U.K.
I had this recently and it turned out to be a corrupt edit.
Try exporting all the clips and make a new edit.
It had me going round in circles for a while.
regards
Try exporting all the clips and make a new edit.
It had me going round in circles for a while.
regards
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 144 posts since 10 Mar, 2004 from Brighton, England
Thanks for replies.
AD80 - do you mean that merging midi clips always happens real quick (like under a second)
Valley - yeah, the long clip thing was a one off, but it happens even on relatively short clips (say 16 bars long), though not as extreme.
Mapper, will try out your suggestion, but it seems to be something that happens on all my edits.
What I don't understand is why something as simple as MIDI data (much less cpu intenisve than wav data, surely) takes so long to process - it used to work instantaneously in Cubase (but I'm never going back to it). Why is this? Surely there's something going on - maybe it's a conspiracy between Jules, Mackie and sample library companies?!?
AD80 - do you mean that merging midi clips always happens real quick (like under a second)
Valley - yeah, the long clip thing was a one off, but it happens even on relatively short clips (say 16 bars long), though not as extreme.
Mapper, will try out your suggestion, but it seems to be something that happens on all my edits.
What I don't understand is why something as simple as MIDI data (much less cpu intenisve than wav data, surely) takes so long to process - it used to work instantaneously in Cubase (but I'm never going back to it). Why is this? Surely there's something going on - maybe it's a conspiracy between Jules, Mackie and sample library companies?!?
...and so it goes (Kurt Vonnegut)
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
Its very easy to end up with MIDI clips that have a lot of hidden data beyond the start and/or end of the clip.. try the 'delete content' button, see if that makes any difference.
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- KVRAF
- 3745 posts since 29 Sep, 2002 from Killafornia
Yeah, pretty much instant for me. But my clips are not 11 minutes long.simondsouza wrote:
AD80 - do you mean that merging midi clips always happens real quick (like under a second)
EDIT: I actually just tryed to merge two 15 minute clips together just to test it and it did seem a lot slower than with shorter clips. Maybe 3 seconds? But yeah I see what you're talking about now.
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- KVRAF
- 10815 posts since 26 Nov, 2004 from UK
do you have any ports selected for the MCU or the C4 in the settings page? thease should be set to no midi device or it will slow down tracktion!
unless you have a MCU or a C4 i suppose
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unless you have a MCU or a C4 i suppose
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- KVRAF
- 4644 posts since 28 Nov, 2002 from Chicago
Length is a little subjective as I think it matters more how much data is in the clip.simondsouza wrote: Valley - yeah, the long clip thing was a one off, but it happens even on relatively short clips (say 16 bars long), though not as extreme.
I've had two bar clips get kind of clunky, but they were pretty OTT on CC data.
Sometimes, rather than restling with Tracktion in this regard, it is just easier to split clips into smaller chunks then use the delete content beyond bounds option to strip them all down to the desired size.
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- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 30 Mar, 2004 from Phoenix AZ USA
Similar problem I run into, but not quite the same.
I tend to sit down and improvise on the keyboard.
Since I only play guitar and my keyboard playing sucks I cut the piece up into many parts, remove some parts, correct others.
Then I rearrange these pieces.
Since Tracktion does this non-destructively (all data is inside every little piece) and since I edit a lot and there are huge number of undo levels things start to pile up and Tracktion is reduced to crawling.
Is there a way to turn off the "non-destructive" nature of T?
Maybe an effective work arround?
I tend to sit down and improvise on the keyboard.
Since I only play guitar and my keyboard playing sucks I cut the piece up into many parts, remove some parts, correct others.
Then I rearrange these pieces.
Since Tracktion does this non-destructively (all data is inside every little piece) and since I edit a lot and there are huge number of undo levels things start to pile up and Tracktion is reduced to crawling.
Is there a way to turn off the "non-destructive" nature of T?
Maybe an effective work arround?
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
You can reduce the number of undo levels if you want.. (settings -> misc.)AndrewSimon wrote:Is there a way to turn off the "non-destructive" nature of T?
Also, try selecting all your little chopped-up clips (one at a time I'm afraid) and pressing 'delete content' -> 'delete notes beyond the start and end of clip'
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- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 30 Mar, 2004 from Phoenix AZ USA
Thanks I learned something.IIRs wrote:You can reduce the number of undo levels if you want.. (settings -> misc.)AndrewSimon wrote:Is there a way to turn off the "non-destructive" nature of T?
Also, try selecting all your little chopped-up clips (one at a time I'm afraid) and pressing 'delete content' -> 'delete notes beyond the start and end of clip'
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 144 posts since 10 Mar, 2004 from Brighton, England
I learned something too - thanks for all the posts people.
Will try the MCU/C4 settings tab when I am next on my DAW, will also bear in mind the amount of CC data. I wasn't aware of the delete content button, and hadn't twigged that as the resizing of clips in non destructive this can also have an effect.
Valley - you have a point - I tried to glue two long empty clips - instantaneous! My friends clips sure do have a lot of notes in them and some CC data, so I guess that's what it is.
Will try these solutions on my DAW and report back.
Cheers
Simon
Will try the MCU/C4 settings tab when I am next on my DAW, will also bear in mind the amount of CC data. I wasn't aware of the delete content button, and hadn't twigged that as the resizing of clips in non destructive this can also have an effect.
Valley - you have a point - I tried to glue two long empty clips - instantaneous! My friends clips sure do have a lot of notes in them and some CC data, so I guess that's what it is.
Will try these solutions on my DAW and report back.
Cheers
Simon
...and so it goes (Kurt Vonnegut)
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
30 seconds still seems long considering the pittance of DATA that MIDI carries. A modern computer should be able to merge it all up in short order, indeed. On the other hand, if it's only 30 seconds, you might be wasting more time of your life going on a hunt for it than just continuing.
I know the desire to make sure things are working optimally, though, so I probalby wouldn't be able to take that advice, either.
I know the desire to make sure things are working optimally, though, so I probalby wouldn't be able to take that advice, either.
