I think you'll find that copy/paste that moved the clip and automation would solve all problems.
Think about it: currently everyone has to move a clip then you go back and cut and paste the automation where the clip was to the new location.
The way I'm proposing is like moving the automation points and any clips that happen to be in the same zone as the left and right markers.
It does make sense, honest.
move objects AND automation curves TOGETHER
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
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- KVRAF
- 2009 posts since 9 Apr, 2003 from Cornwall, UK
Yes, the only thing that is missing is the ability to shift (or CTR) click the automation curve AND clips at the same time.
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 7 Jun, 2005
Although T2 itself may not associate automation with clips, sometimes the music does associate them (e.g. reverb send automation on the last word in each line of a chorus you want to duplicate), and it is the music that is the important thing, no?semiquaver wrote:T doesn't associate automation with clips!pHz wrote:not JUST me then ???
slainterob
Having the flexibility to copy the automation with the clip or indeed not copy it (like Logic), can only be a good thing.
I can't believe some of the features missing from T2
Paul
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- KVRAF
- 1615 posts since 28 Mar, 2005
paul the difficulty as I pointed out before is what happens when two overlapping or simultanious clips are feeding the same filter?
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 7 Jun, 2005
The way that Logic handles this situation, is that any automation in the clip being copied/moved will replace any automation in the section that is overlaid... but if you don't want this to happen, there's an option for you to turn it off, and no automation is copied with the clip, only the clip itself.
Logically, in T2, the automation would still be tied to the track --- it's just that when a clip is copied, Tracktion would rewrite the automation data at the appropriate part of the track according to what needed to be copied.
So, you haven't got two sets of automation data at a particular point on the track (one set per clip) which is what I think you're getting at and which certainly would cause a problem; there's only one set for the whole track, as now, but with extended copying/pasting facilities.
Paul
Logically, in T2, the automation would still be tied to the track --- it's just that when a clip is copied, Tracktion would rewrite the automation data at the appropriate part of the track according to what needed to be copied.
So, you haven't got two sets of automation data at a particular point on the track (one set per clip) which is what I think you're getting at and which certainly would cause a problem; there's only one set for the whole track, as now, but with extended copying/pasting facilities.
Paul
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- KVRAF
- 5782 posts since 10 Mar, 2003 from Music Shed #8
wouldn't make any difference if you had automation clips*, would it? you'd have the option to leave/move/copy the automation clip as well.pHz wrote:thanks ... not JUST me then ???semiquaver wrote:T doesn't associate automation with clips! - what if you have two overlapping clips on a track feeding a filter which is being automated. What should happen when you move one of the clips but not the other?
slainte
of course, if you could copy/cut/paste/insert automation points, that would amount to much the same thing. er...I think...