oh what a nightmare, f**k you steinberg

[Mr. Tingle]

slow gui on large edits (on my fast machine) is for me the *only* hindrance to productivity in T2. Even so I work about twice as fast in T2 than I did in DP.

I heard that different skins affected some graphic cards differently, worth an experiment I'd of thought.

[haydxn]

i did a test last week - i made two skins, one with EVERY parameter set to mid alpha (transparency), and one with EVERY parameter opaque. i expected there to be an improvement in performance with the opaque one when running a busy track, but to be perfectly frank i couldn't see any performance difference between them.

i guess it may be useful to test on different systems tho

[Robert T]

I first got into digital audio with a HD recorder(Fostex VF08) and bought a soundcard(Mia) so I could transfer the finished songs to PC and burn to CD. The Mia came with Cubasic. I don't know about you but I allways thought that a demo was suppose to make you want to buy the full version of the software......It made me want to hunt down and hurt the programers of this evil program.

I read about T in the Pro Rec forum, DL'ed the demo and in a few min's said "Now this is the shit!" Needless to say, the Fostex is gathering dust and all I can say about Cubase is.........Well, you know

So......Welcome back to sanity!

[ShawnG]

I remember when I first laid eyes on cubase... I thought she was the best thing I had ever seen. Cakewalk Pro Audio 9 was a bit surprised by the sudden divorce, but it was love, I tell you. Now I come home and cubase doesn't even say hello anymore, just sits there and refuses to load my plugins properly, and when I try to maka an advance, I just get blue screen for my troubles. It's enough to make any man feel like going elsewhere. I had even flirted with cubase's younger sister SX, but the apple doesn't fall very far from the tree does it? SO now there's this new girl Tracktion, but she just improved herself, and now she refuses to live in my old home at Windows 98! I should have married her before she went off to college, but I was too busy trying to make it work with the the old lady Cubase, and didn't notice. What's a guy to do?

Thanks for listening.

[mandolarian]

All's fair in love and DAW wars.

[laiben]

I tried CubaseSX, the first impression is there are WAY too much windows floating on my 17" LCD Monitor!
I tried CakeWalk Audio in my friend's home. It took me 5 mins to figure out how to load a VSTi.
I also tried PT LE on my friends' Mac, it sucks. It took me two days to find out how to select part of the sound clip by "sample", not by "bar"... BTW the one-button mouse is really stupid.
Finally I know T, I open an example that come with T and then I thought I understand 99% of the work flow and logic in T!

My only complaint at this moment is I want to have a more powerful Midi editor, and have an option to copy all the imported sound/midi clip to the project folder.

[simondsouza]

Tracktion does have some annoyances (mentioned above) but as an ex cubase user of many years I am never going backt o that cumbersome elephant. Sure if you need to impress your clients or if you need all the little tricks (eg a truly useful groove quantise) then Cubase or Logic are the way to go. Buyt if you just want to create some music quickly effiiently and with minimum hassle, then T2 is the one!

Hurrah for Tracktion 2

Simon

[dry bones]

I spent 18 months ( in spare time )labouring my way up Logic's learning curve, without a safety line. I finally reached the point where I was reasonably competent in using it, made one mistake when drunk one night and it never worked again. Tracktion came along, now the Logic manual is gathering dust on the shelf and I'm recording happily. I've got the rest of my band using it as well.

[ceenda]

I have to admit, when you read tons of complaints about a particular piece of software, or flames about bugs or missing features, it kinda clouds your judgement a bit and you get tempted to go off and try other software.

So did just that, recently.

Spent the best part of a day going through a number of packages. After a long frustrating day, tried to do the same tune in Tracktion2 and had it wrapped up in no time at all.

Sometimes it's hard to see the forest for the trees.

Though 'stuck notes' still make me cry.

[Daniel78]

These stories all struck a familiar chord with me (no pun intended )

"Upgraded" from my non-VSTi host to Cubase VST 5 a while back, and literally spent hours trying to get some audio recorded. Incredibly unintuitive, but i struggled with it in the hope i just needed to get used to it. Months later it was still incredibly frustrating with regular cries of "why???" "where did that window go???" and puzzled looks of bemusement as i tried to figure out which track corresponded to which mixer channel.

Horrible. I briefly considered upgrading to SL/SX (which i'm sure is an improvement, but i really don't think Steinberg deserve my money), and i even considered writing my own host(!!!), but luckily stumbled upon Tracktion. Saying it it was a breath of fresh air is a major understatement. Everything just made sense immediately, and i was recording audio within minutes.

I was immediatley disappointed by the lack of aftertouch support, but there was no going back, i'd just have to live without it. The thought of returning to cubase makes me shudder....

[Sage]

I used to use Cubase SX myself, and as a program, it's actually not bad at all. It's far easier to use than Sonar or Logic. It's just not as easy as Tracktion.

It's their copy protection scheme I can't stand. Every product they put out requires that damn dongle now. They've pretty much ensured that I'll never buy anything from them again.

[pdxindy]

I used to use Cubase SX myself, and as a program, it's actually not bad at all. It's far easier to use than Sonar or Logic. It's just not as easy as Tracktion.

It's their copy protection scheme I can't stand. Every product they put out requires that damn dongle now. They've pretty much ensured that I'll never buy anything from them again.

You're right, Cubase SX isn't as bad as I usually say it is. I could always figure things out without the manual, it was just slow and tedious and hard to keep track of things. Digital Performer is the one that really made me want to throw the computer out the window.

In Cubase, if I had not worked on a project for a week, then opened it, it would always take me a while to figure out what is what and what I was doing.

In Tracktion, I open a project, and can be up and making music right away cause everything is right there (mostly)

The first time I downloaded the Tracktion demo, took about 20 minutes to get it configured for Midi/Audio and had a rough draft soundtrack for a 6 minute video in 2 hours.

2 hours into DP and I still could not do anything. In fact, I blundered around with DP for 16 hours or so over the course of a week, and never actually recorded a single thing.

Cubase was somewhere in the middle timewise, but I could at least get it to work.

I also was pleased with Tracktion because on the slower of my two macs, it would play vsti's that Cubase would stutter on. In fact, Cubase tended to stutter and/or crackle alot and I was always having to tweak things to prevent that.

Tracktion, just works, and I can launch it and tweak something without having to quit FinalCut. It is more stable.

[valley]

In Cubase, if I had not worked on a project for a week, then opened it, it would always take me a while to figure out what is what and what I was doing.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one.

[djsubject]

so please tell me what after touch is used for?


Subject

[braj]

so please tell me what after touch is used for?


Subject

I used to use aftertouch when I had a KB that supported it to increase brightness on organ patches and stuff, increase volume, modulate something other than the mod wheel setting, bend notes, switch between oscilators, etc. It's pretty cool and T should support it IMO. If you want to record live keyboards and you have it set up right, it can be extremely cool. You can tweak most stuff in automation later though, so it depends on your playing style.