FR - Reverse audio clips

[haydxn]

putting two adjacent notes together is a pretty old technique too!

come to think of it, even though computers haven't been around for that long i think the act of 'loading a sample' is pretty old hat now. i can't see the need for that sort of thing, what with all the new technology we have!

[cbit]

I'm actually with aldi on this one-- why is this such a much-needed feature? Just out of curiousity, what are all y'all using reversing for? I keep imagining reversed guitar solos or reversed, layered, then built up vocals... both of which are getting pretty old as far as techniques go. So what am I missing? Obviously something...!

if you stop thinking in terms of pop, reverse becomes more useful .. you dont have to use it in a OBVIOUSLY REVERSED AUDIO kind of way either.. its a staple of many types of electronic music.

[chance11]

When I had my old 2" recorder I used reverse record a lot. Rarely did I use it on vox, but mostly on cymbles and verb for a subtle but unique effect.

[AD80]

I really need this feature too. I need to see if my music has any subliminal satanic messages or not.

[semiquaver]

I like to reverse midi. tunes in reverse can have a cool logic.

[Lunch Money]

putting two adjacent notes together is a pretty old technique too!

come to think of it, even though computers haven't been around for that long i think the act of 'loading a sample' is pretty old hat now. i can't see the need for that sort of thing, what with all the new technology we have!

Weeeeaaaaaak comparison, haydxn. You know full well what I meant.

cbit's response is more appropriate-- he knew that I was thinking in terms of obvious usage. The only thing I can see myself using reverse for is for reversing reverb tails, etc-- but the thing is, even if you get non-destructive clip-reversing, the game of building up reversed then unreversed then reversed reverb tails requires rendering anyhow. <shrug>

Greg

[SaviorNeeded]

What AD80 said. Pretty scary if something jumped out, eh?!

Tom

[SaviorNeeded]

I use reverse because I'm just curious about what things sound like backwards--seriously. I find that I like to experiment with sounds and noises--actually more than I like to make songs (I like to play music, but that's different than actually putting together a finished song). Much of the stuff I record is total sonic chaos, and reversing is usually in there somewhere.

Tom

[haydxn]

reverse is just one of those things that you can just 'do' with audio, just like rotating an element of a collage before you stick it down. just like trying out a vst effect on a sound to see if it does what you want.

i tend to work with really small clips rather than long track-length recordings. most of my music is build up in a sort of manual granular way, and almost every note is a single audio clip that's been tweaked, stretched and manhandled into position.

one thing i really like to do is create evolving pads from a single lets say guitar note sample. what i do is plonk one down on a track, and the first thing i'd do would be reverse it. then i'd adjust the length of it and then bring in the fade handles, and arrange/overlap a string of them until i had a continuous tone. then, using the alt/draglength corner thing i'd stretch the clip to a new pitch, and put it on a different track. using the same process, i create a new continuous tone at this new pitch, and build up a chord. on each track i'd put a different eq setting and maybe some other effects. also, i'd experiment with putting different effects on individual clips in the chains to get more variety in the sounds.

but almost always the first step is to reverse a sample. and at any point during the process, i might try a different sample and put it in, and think "that would probably sound better in this texture if it were reversed", and it's as normal a process as anything else (Split, move, add eq) and so it'd be great if there were a mega-fast way of doing it.

[zeoy]

It's also useful if you want to find out if there are really hidden satanistic references in Sabbath's songs

[cbit]

reverse is just one of those things that you can just 'do' with audio, just like rotating an element of a collage before you stick it down. just like trying out a vst effect on a sound to see if it does what you want.

i tend to work with really small clips rather than long track-length recordings. most of my music is build up in a sort of manual granular way, and almost every note is a single audio clip that's been tweaked, stretched and manhandled into position.

good description haydxn, i approach making music in a similar way also.

[lharless]

reverse comes in handy in alot of situations.

i have a client that likes to do that everytime he does a project with me. so i'd like to have it in tracktion.
that way i could start using tracktion for some professional projects, instead of just on my laptop at home.

but most importantly, until i can get my waves plugs to work in tracktion, ill not be able to use it for much of anything.

but i keep it around for little things. i still like it. im still hopefull for the future.

[haydxn]

do waves work within a wrapper like energyXT?

[chrismuktar]

I really want this feature too. How can I reverse audio in tracktion without an external app? Is there a way?

[Lunch Money]

Yes, but it's destructive. If you want to do it, make sure you locate the clip in your project, make a duplicate, and import this duplicate into your project before messing around. For individual clips that already exist in your edit, you can change the source info to point to the duplicate instead.

Ofc, you can always use the render/export function instead of the 'copy' and 're-import' method.

Then you select the clip, 'view source info', and then 'edit audio file >' with basic operations.

Greg