Still waiting...
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- KVRist
- 367 posts since 20 Aug, 2004 from Sydney, Australia
Still waiting... for the update/bug fix for T2... Traction creates "crap/temp" files that it doesn't remove after saving/closing the projects..?! "Bloteware" springs to my mind. Any solutions... other than deleting "temps" manually after every recording session..?!
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
this IS on the list AFAIR ...
... but IIRC the only temp files that T2 leaves laying around are those related to material from archived edits (or at least they were the only ones that stuck around on my system when i tested the original BR some time ago) ...
... anyway ... just curious ... how long do logic / cubase sonar / insert host here (except for maybe energyXT TBH) users usually have to wait for bugfix / update releases ???
slainte
rob
... but IIRC the only temp files that T2 leaves laying around are those related to material from archived edits (or at least they were the only ones that stuck around on my system when i tested the original BR some time ago) ...
... anyway ... just curious ... how long do logic / cubase sonar / insert host here (except for maybe energyXT TBH) users usually have to wait for bugfix / update releases ???
slainte
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 367 posts since 20 Aug, 2004 from Sydney, Australia
"... anyway ... just curious ... how long do logic / cubase sonar / insert host here (except for maybe energyXT TBH) users usually have to wait for bugfix / update releases ??? "
Well, I am Cubase/Live user and normally they DO FIX bugs in a matter of days...
Seems to me that Mackie is unable to comply....
Well, I am Cubase/Live user and normally they DO FIX bugs in a matter of days...
Seems to me that Mackie is unable to comply....
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
ok ... again not to defend but to offer perspective ...
... how many devs on the cubase / logic / sonar coding teams ???
(bet its magnitudes bigger than the CURRENT T2 team)
slainte
rob
... how many devs on the cubase / logic / sonar coding teams ???
(bet its magnitudes bigger than the CURRENT T2 team)
slainte
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- KVRAF
- 1820 posts since 28 Mar, 2005
well put pHz.
julian is a hard workin' person. we'll see the bug fixes whenever he's ready to post them. unless you want buggy bug fixes, then excercise some patience.
why don't you just go and delete what you want deleted yourself, with a couple mouse clicks and a keyboard shortcut or two, until the easy way get's here? it's not an impossible feat. im sure if you think about it and read a little bit, you'll find a way to get it done.
julian is a hard workin' person. we'll see the bug fixes whenever he's ready to post them. unless you want buggy bug fixes, then excercise some patience.
why don't you just go and delete what you want deleted yourself, with a couple mouse clicks and a keyboard shortcut or two, until the easy way get's here? it's not an impossible feat. im sure if you think about it and read a little bit, you'll find a way to get it done.
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- KVRist
- 415 posts since 14 Dec, 2004
Seriously...for something you paid $20 for, what do you expect. Now, if you paid thousands of $$$$ for T2 sure, you might get bug fixes quicker!!! But, untill the rest of us have a fully paid up version and are putting money in the coffers of Mackie, I think you can expect some relatively slow and steady development\bugfix strategies...!!! It's not as if there are studios with 10-20 copies of Tracktion demanding the bug's are fixed...!!!
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Price is irrelevant, actually; however, I don't think that the timeline for waiting on a bugfix is out of line, depending on how many bugs are being serviced. I'd have to say you're full o' crap about the "few days" thing from Steinberg, though. It often takes eons, and in some cases they just step up a version as a paid upgrade with all new bugs to be fixed.
On a separate point, "bloATware" implies a code base with a lot of old, useless, or otherwise not optimized code. Nothing to do with the fact that it leaves temp files behind. Speaking of which, is it really so hard to delete them manually? I agree that it's a bug and should be fixed, but there really needs to be a sense of perspective about this bug compared to others.
Greg
On a separate point, "bloATware" implies a code base with a lot of old, useless, or otherwise not optimized code. Nothing to do with the fact that it leaves temp files behind. Speaking of which, is it really so hard to delete them manually? I agree that it's a bug and should be fixed, but there really needs to be a sense of perspective about this bug compared to others.
Greg
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- KVRist
- 140 posts since 10 Mar, 2005
Nonsense. The big elephants usually react slowly where the one-man-shop can have fixes out twice daily. Mackie ain't that big. At least not bigger than Apple that had its first "oops-release" for OSX 10.4 out within a couple of weeks (May 16) and released two more (security updates) since. Tracktion is still since six weeks nonfunctional on OSX and no "oops-release" in sight.Madness wrote:Now, if you paid thousands of $$$$ for T2 sure, you might get bug fixes quicker!!!
That is weak! ... if not arrogant.
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- KVRAF
- 3745 posts since 29 Sep, 2002 from Killafornia
You must have some special type of Cubase that I never had because back when I was a cubase user, it took them months to fix things. It took them 4 revisions (almost a year) of SX to even fix the dissapearing act issue, and thats a show stopper.Leslie wrote:
Well, I am Cubase/Live user and normally they DO FIX bugs in a matter of days...
Seems to me that Mackie is unable to comply....
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- KVRAF
- 25042 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
pHz wrote: ... anyway ... just curious ... how long do logic / cubase sonar / insert host here (except for maybe energyXT TBH) users usually have to wait for bugfix / update releases ???
slainte
pHz wrote: ... how many devs on the cubase / logic / sonar coding teams ???
(bet its magnitudes bigger than the CURRENT T2 team)
slainte
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- The Teach
- 8273 posts since 23 Jul, 2002 from flatness
i know mate ...
... but jorgens answerable only to himself ...
... i guess less direct contact with users / a less direct route to releasing new verisons was the soul jules had to sell to mackie to keep the big T going ...
... swings and roundabouts ...
slainte rob
... but jorgens answerable only to himself ...
... i guess less direct contact with users / a less direct route to releasing new verisons was the soul jules had to sell to mackie to keep the big T going ...
... swings and roundabouts ...
slainte
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- KVRAF
- 25042 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
that's just wrong, Greg!Lunch Money wrote: I'd have to say you're full o' crap about the "few days" thing from Steinberg, though. It often takes eons, and in some cases they just step up a version as a paid upgrade with all new bugs to be fixed.
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- KVRAF
- 25042 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
yeah, I sometimes ask myself why it works for Jorgen and why it didn't work for Jules in the long run...pHz wrote:i know mate ...
... but jorgens answerable only to himself ...
... i guess less direct contact with users / a less direct route to releasing new verisons was the soul jules had to sell to mackie to keep the big T going ...
... swings and roundabouts ...
slainte
maybe it's just a different type of usual user...
(Jules once wrote that he regularly had to spend hours just answering e-mails...)