KVR Audio

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 7:15 am

theres gonna be alot of haters

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:05 am

stale bread wrote:theres gonna be alot of haters

Yeah, but the one biggest past gripe doesn't exist any more, ie. CPU use. (this was my big gripe) It appears it is much more frugal on the CPU, and with freeze how could anyone complain? I wonder what people will choose now to use as the deal-breaker for considering it a worthy application.

stale bread · Post by **stale bread** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:22 am

i wonder meself, cause folks were talking so much about the quality of the sound and according to all accounts the new warping engine sounds and functions stuningly.

braj · Post by **braj** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 8:27 am

Yeah, I can't wait to try it out.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:09 am

WillieJenkins wrote:HAH! Haven't tried any NI stuff yet eh?

Sad to say I don't have any

but I noticed some NI plugs are being reported on the beta forum. On the other hand, I saw that Reaktor 5 is working - multiple instances - which didn;t work in Live 4, so that's good news. Reaktor is possibly on my shopping list, judging by reviews and feedback I have seen

I've found a bazillion bugs, but the Abletons have the best beta process I've seen yet. They crush bugs with stunning efficiency.

Yeah. I really believe that they are in a different league from "the others" here. Only excepetion that comes to mind is eXT, I guess. Until 18 months or so ago, Tracktion used to have that level of support too, but in the last year it went pear shaped for some reason.

I hope that Ableton never lose the plot like that... I don't think they will though - top guys all around!

The bugs aside, this is going to be THE killer release I think. At this point I can use live for like 90% of what I'm doing, and that makes me smile

Yep, agree there too. This is the one that puts an end to all arguments and resistance is now futile

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:11 am

braj wrote:I missed the window to get into the beta

How come?

Anyway, then next beta round will be open to EVERYONE

Ableton really know how to update a product!

Totally!

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:14 am

headquest wrote:Anyway, then next beta round will be open to EVERYONE

True.

From the e-mail...

Ableton wrote: A public beta for all users (even those who are unregistered) will follow.

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:17 am

HI

Any news on the Midi side of things - in particular editing in the piano roll?

Flipper.

nuffink · Post by **nuffink** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:22 am

I've no idea, flipper. I'm only on their mailing list because I participated in their last public beta.

The big showstopper for me was the lack of a "Get user goove" feature.

Bunnyboy · Post by **Bunnyboy** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:23 am

I HATE YOU ALL!! I NEED A BETTER JOB!! I WANT MORE MONEY!!

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:23 am

Does it have PDC now too?

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:29 am

original flipper wrote:HI

Any news on the Midi side of things - in particular editing in the piano roll?

Flipper.

Two things I noticed straight away (not announced in the publicity blurb)...

1. You can listen to notes as you enter them (a major request for some, I know!)

. Simply activate a button at the top left of the piano roll to preview your editing as you go.

2. Quantise value is shown numerically in the bottom right of the piano roll.

Also - VERY important to me - you can now set a metronome count in before recording. At last! A small but very significant improvement

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:31 am

aMUSEd wrote:Does it have PDC now too?

Yes. And delay/compensation is specifically shown/detailed in the mixer section (which as usual you can hide/show, like the other elements).

You can use or disable PDC according to your needs.

I've not tested this, and I don't have a lot of latency inducing plugs, anyway, but it looks like a well-thought out and elegant solution.

korn666 · Post by **korn666** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:35 am

is it possible to arrange with freezed loops/Clips ?

let´s say an 4 bar freezed vsti loops..can i move /copy arrange with this files..or is it like SX unmoveable ?

thx

edit are only vsti channels freezeable or either audiochannels with VST FX ?

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:49 am

korn666 wrote:is it possible to arrange with freezed loops/Clips ?

Yes...

let´s say an 4 bar freezed vsti loops..can i move /copy arrange with this files..or is it like SX unmoveable ?

thx

edit are only vsti channels freezeable or either audiochannels with VST FX ?

...basically you select a track/mixer channel, go to the edit menu and seledct "freeze track". All the clips in that track become frozen (i.e. a background render is done). BUT - and this is the really good bit - you can still launch those clips in real time... LIVE

And this also means of course that you can completely rearrange your material

Live 5 beta