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kylen · Post by **kylen** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:27 am

poepe wrote:Compression is very simple to explain. Look at your finger, take a hammer and smash that finger. Observe the result : a compressed finger ! That´s what´s it all about... .. .

OK that's a cool visual - It makes me think (in a cartoonish sort of way) about Punch & Pumping in compression (assuming the finger comes back to normal size again like in a cartoon).

Here's another one - stick your band members heads in a vise and squeeze each one until they are small enough to fit in the particular picture frame you have in mind. It can also help if you EQ their noses and ears first...

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:35 am

high attack, low release values.. slap that on all your channels and you're good to go. try lowering your master volume before you do this though..

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morelia · Post by **morelia** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 6:09 am

Well after all the suggestions of free compression and trying them out I realised that I hardly need a commercial one. Even though they obviously should be better quality. I bought Voxformer just now so with that and some freebies I should be alright. The only thing I can think of now is some sort of tube emulation. I am not really sure what I want but in the demo softawre I have tried (Warmifier in particular) I have found some added sonic flavour that I really like. Is there any way I can get something similar to this. Unfortunately it must come as a free plugin due to my recent (and probably last for a while) purchase?

bduffy · Post by **bduffy** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:13 pm

IIRs wrote:
bduffy wrote:
Ocean Zen wrote:If you want a good graphical representation of what goes on inside a compressor check out www.elementalaudiosystems.com NEODYNIUM
You serious? I've been using compressors for years, and I don't have a clue WTF that thing does. I tried. I tried to understand...
It just splits the dynamic range into different regions, with seperate processing for each. I've made something similar in Synthedit, though I couldn't get the graphics as flashy..

Yeah, you know, I love these guys' products...but I still find it bizarre. I guess it's just not how I like to think of compression - but I'll try to spend more time with it; Eqium and Firium are two of the(if not THE) best VST EQ's ever, so they must have figured something useful here. But I was a little underwhelmed with Finis too...

johnmck6 · Post by **johnmck6** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:26 pm

I use Ruby Tube (free), it adds a nice bit of high end edge, and works as a limiter, as well (ok, all distortion is a form of limiting, but you know what I'm saying...)

morelia · Post by **morelia** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:30 pm

I forgot about Ruby Tube. Thanks for the reminder.

morelia · Post by **morelia** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 11:55 pm

http://www.invadarecords.com/List.php?ID=Downloads

I just found these. Anyone used?

Frippertronix · Post by **Frippertronix** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:35 am

ancoats wrote:For the record, nobody knows anything about compressors. There's a few people that pretend to know, and will try and blind you wth science, but, basically, compression is the biggest white elephant the recording industry has ever known.

All bollocks basically

I know about compressors!

They, you know...squish things.

Frippertronix · Post by **Frippertronix** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 12:41 am

kylen wrote:
poepe wrote:Compression is very simple to explain. Look at your finger, take a hammer and smash that finger. Observe the result : a compressed finger ! That´s what´s it all about... .. .

Here's another one - stick your band members heads in a vise and squeeze each one until they are small enough to fit in the particular picture frame you have in mind.

You wouldn't even have to do that with a lead guitarist or a vocalist.

sangha · Post by **sangha** » Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:36 am

rosa wrote:glad to see this post cus may be what i needed to understand what goind on here and why i cant get tha clean sound i hear on many songs , and a sound many people easylly do and i find myself goind crazy with some tracks cus i can get that and tottally abandon them ..

so are compressors and for example tl_pocket limiter ways to help removing that alwfull "noises" we get when we really need to put the song a few levels up??

It sounds like you're recording with your input levels set too low. Try increasing the gain on your inputs. Keep increasing it until your inputs overload. Increasing your signals level result in increased SNR (signal to noise ratio.

Modeler · Post by **Modeler** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:02 pm

Could I trouble someone to explain what the difference is between:

A compressor
A soft clipper
A maximizer
A limiter

All this techno-babble sometimes gets in the way of actually making music, no?

rpc9943 · Post by **rpc9943** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 1:15 pm

yep use blockfish and also try camelphatfree it can do some neat boosty stuff, also check out stardust for a multiband one, pretty cool stuff.

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:07 pm

Danny Darko wrote:Could I trouble someone to explain what the difference is between:

A compressor
A soft clipper
A maximizer
A limiter

All this techno-babble sometimes gets in the way of actually making music, no?

A compressor is an automatic volume control.

A soft clipper is a distortion effect.

A limiter is a compressor with a ratio higher than about 10:1

A maximizer is a "brickwall" limiter with a ratio of infinity:1 usually achieved by using a lookahead delay. These are usually used as the last processor before the dither in a mastering chain (some include dither though).

AKJ · Post by **AKJ** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:07 pm

make sure to also check the free buzzcomp bundle. imo its the best freeware beneath blockfish and endorphin. actually to me it's better than most of the commercial stuff. crunchessor is a good alround solution thogh and it is easy to adjust.

deleted · Post by **deleted** » Mon Jun 27, 2005 2:21 pm

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I know nothing about compressors