Tracktion routinely forgets time signature and tempo.
It's crippling, because I keep forgetting to double check time/tempo after I reopen edits...
Am I the only one with this problem?
I rewire Reason into T most of the time, which may add to the confusion.
BR: Continuing trouble with time sig and tempo
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
never happened to me.. 
I don't use rewire though. What do you mean by 'forget?'
you on a pc or mac?
I don't use rewire though. What do you mean by 'forget?'you on a pc or mac?
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7217 posts since 21 Aug, 2004 from Trondheim, Norway
I'm on PC. I mean forget, like get it wrong.
I'm working on a couple of songs right now, one is 4/4 90 bpm, and the other is 100 bmp 15/8.
The 15/8 one ALWAYS starts up as 15/4, and if I forget to change it before recording or editing things can get pretty corny...
The 90 bmp one often changes from 90 to 100 bpm. Don't know why.
I am aware of this, and look at tempo and time sig before I save. Sometimes I forget to double check when I open songs though...
Of course, rewire is tricky - sometimes Tracktion follows the song I open in Reason, and sometimes the opposite is true. But I don't care how tricky it is, it's supposed to work. Both T2 and R3 are official releases I paid for...
I'm working on a couple of songs right now, one is 4/4 90 bpm, and the other is 100 bmp 15/8.
The 15/8 one ALWAYS starts up as 15/4, and if I forget to change it before recording or editing things can get pretty corny...
The 90 bmp one often changes from 90 to 100 bpm. Don't know why.
I am aware of this, and look at tempo and time sig before I save. Sometimes I forget to double check when I open songs though...
Of course, rewire is tricky - sometimes Tracktion follows the song I open in Reason, and sometimes the opposite is true. But I don't care how tricky it is, it's supposed to work. Both T2 and R3 are official releases I paid for...
Rakkervoksen
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
This smells to me like a rewire problem.. you could be the only Reason user that uses anything other than 4/4! 
What happens if you open these edits without Reason? Have you noticed at what point the tempo changes?
What happens if you open these edits without Reason? Have you noticed at what point the tempo changes?
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
so, you save it with 15/8, but when you re-open it its set to 15/4? Weird!Hovmod wrote:Not sure about the tempo, but the 15/8 file opens in 15/4 without Reason...
Have you got somewhere to upload an archive? It would be interesting to see how it imported on another machine.. I can't replicate the problem here at the moment.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7217 posts since 21 Aug, 2004 from Trondheim, Norway
OK, thanks. I'll make some arrangements when I get back. I'm going three or four days offshore now, Tracktion free...
I'll think of a way to isolate the problem.
I'll think of a way to isolate the problem.
Rakkervoksen
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- KVRAF
- 1600 posts since 1 Apr, 2003 from Seattle, WA
Hey Hovmod,
I've been trying to reproduce this without success. If you are able to supply a reproduceable method or an archive that always does it that would be great.
Ben
I've been trying to reproduce this without success. If you are able to supply a reproduceable method or an archive that always does it that would be great.
Ben
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 7217 posts since 21 Aug, 2004 from Trondheim, Norway
OK - but it seems to me the easiest way to do it is to create an edit, set it to 15/8, save and close and then reopen it 
I'll see if I can make a simple archive to upload that does this.
I'm not making this up.
This morning I opened a 100 bpm song that opened as 90 bpm, and when I set it to 100 again all the different audio clips repositioned themselves so I had to spend a lot of time putting stuff back in the right places.
I'm frustrated, but I'm also a bit cold towards it, because while I'm currently beta testing several apps and plugs, I'm NOT beta testing Tracktion. I expect it to work properly, because it's a paid for official release, and not a rushed one either... Time and tempo are fairly basic stuff. I will help troubleshoot, but somehow this feels just like beta testing
There. Outburst over.
I'm at work. I'l upload files later this evening, I hope. If I can make it not work.
I'll see if I can make a simple archive to upload that does this.
I'm not making this up.
This morning I opened a 100 bpm song that opened as 90 bpm, and when I set it to 100 again all the different audio clips repositioned themselves so I had to spend a lot of time putting stuff back in the right places.
I'm frustrated, but I'm also a bit cold towards it, because while I'm currently beta testing several apps and plugs, I'm NOT beta testing Tracktion. I expect it to work properly, because it's a paid for official release, and not a rushed one either... Time and tempo are fairly basic stuff. I will help troubleshoot, but somehow this feels just like beta testing
There. Outburst over.
I'm at work. I'l upload files later this evening, I hope. If I can make it not work.
Rakkervoksen
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- KVRian
- 615 posts since 30 Apr, 2003 from London, UK
Can't reproduce Hovmods problem but there is something strange about the way the snap resolution changes as you zoom in if set to 15/8 - i.e. bar -> 1 tick -> beat -> half beat -> quarter beat etc.
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
While this is being investigated, under the timecode menu, untick "remap clip positions when tempo is changed" before changing the tempo, and see if that helps.Hovmod wrote: This morning I opened a 100 bpm song that opened as 90 bpm, and when I set it to 100 again all the different audio clips repositioned themselves so I had to spend a lot of time putting stuff back in the right places.
Note - I'm not saying this resolves your issue, or is a complete solution, i'm just suggesting this might save you having to "put stuff back in the right places" when you have to change the tempo. A little workaround that may save you some work.
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