Good Vocal Mics... any ideas?

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I also own a Shure SM57 which i use on acoustic guitar but that was off topic.

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Lady J wrote:I also own a Shure SM57 which i use on acoustic guitar but that was off topic.
Even though it's known for an instrument mic (btw the mxl on the accoustic would be better) the 57 was used by many artists as a stage vocal mic....of course now most singers are wireless...;)
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Hink wrote:
Lady J wrote:I also own a Shure SM57 which i use on acoustic guitar but that was off topic.
Even though it's known for an instrument mic (btw the mxl on the accoustic would be better) the 57 was used by many artists as a stage vocal mic....of course now most singers are wireless...;)
so true. I have the XLR wireless adapter for my 86 and beta 87a

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Hmm... after reading all of this it looks like some good ones are:
  • Red5 RV6 - cheap but not much info on the net
  • Rode NT1 - more expensive but has great reviews
  • MXL V57M - Extremely cheap and supposedly great value, but how does it compare to the other 2?
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jtxx000 wrote:Hmm... after reading all of this it looks like some good ones are:
  • Red5 RV6 - cheap but not much info on the net
  • Rode NT1 - more expensive but has great reviews
  • MXL V57M - Extremely cheap and supposedly great value, but how does it compare to the other 2?
I don't know the Red5 at all, but the Rode has a flatter response than the Marshall, which is weak in the mids.

Remember, though (old timer hat on) that a lot of these chinese LDCs are made with the cheapest components available. They may sound just fine, and good recordings can be made from them (which is true of any mic. really) but for about double the price you can get a fine piece of equipment that you can give to your grandchildren.

Sorry, but after being lectured on this a million times, I am starting to believe it.

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Sure SM-7 !!! inexpensive, smooth.

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herodotus wrote:
jtxx000 wrote:Hmm... after reading all of this it looks like some good ones are:
  • Red5 RV6 - cheap but not much info on the net
  • Rode NT1 - more expensive but has great reviews
  • MXL V57M - Extremely cheap and supposedly great value, but how does it compare to the other 2?
I don't know the Red5 at all, but the Rode has a flatter response than the Marshall, which is weak in the mids.

Remember, though (old timer hat on) that a lot of these chinese LDCs are made with the cheapest components available. They may sound just fine, and good recordings can be made from them (which is true of any mic. really) but for about double the price you can get a fine piece of equipment that you can give to your grandchildren.

Sorry, but after being lectured on this a million times, I am starting to believe it.
Just curious, do you have data to back-up Marshalls being weak in the mids, or is that your opinion? I have not found that at all I just did The Whisper using mine...sorry but I dont (or didn't) see any loss of midrange in those vocals...but I did use voxformer on those vox and I use a tube pre-amp...;)
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semiquaver wrote:Sure SM-7 !!! inexpensive, smooth.
Good all around mic as well.

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I got a Shure Beta 57A. Very good results with electric guitar and more than decent with vocals. I gave it to a friend (singer) for a gig and he said that it was much much better than the SM58. After that he gave his M-Audio Solaris (condenser) to test it. First impressions were very positive.
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Hink wrote:
herodotus wrote:
jtxx000 wrote:Hmm... after reading all of this it looks like some good ones are:
  • Red5 RV6 - cheap but not much info on the net
  • Rode NT1 - more expensive but has great reviews
  • MXL V57M - Extremely cheap and supposedly great value, but how does it compare to the other 2?
I don't know the Red5 at all, but the Rode has a flatter response than the Marshall, which is weak in the mids.

Remember, though (old timer hat on) that a lot of these chinese LDCs are made with the cheapest components available. They may sound just fine, and good recordings can be made from them (which is true of any mic. really) but for about double the price you can get a fine piece of equipment that you can give to your grandchildren.

Sorry, but after being lectured on this a million times, I am starting to believe it.
Just curious, do you have data to back-up Marshalls being weak in the mids, or is that your opinion? I have not found that at all I just did The Whisper using mine...sorry but I dont (or didn't) see any loss of midrange in those vocals...but I did use voxformer on those vox and I use a tube pre-amp...;)
The specs that came with it seem to indicate it. Also, we used it as a room mic when recording drums, and compared to the other LDCs we tried it lacked punch.

But I was just comparing two mics, not judging them. I have heard wonderful vocal tracks recorded with the Marshall. (I believe that I have even posted one). It has its own character, and it certainly is not a bad mic. For some voices, it is probably the perfect mic.

But then, I have never met a mic that I didn't want to spend my money on. :hihi:

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I join the choir of AT-4040 (or 4033)

I can also recommend the AT-4047 very strongly, but that is a bit more than $400.

There is an interesting thread about them here: http://www.3daudioinc.com/cgi-bin/ultim ... 1&t=001361
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metamorphosis wrote:Find a Rode in your price-range - I have an NTK - it kick ass.
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v1o wrote:I second the Red5 RV6 great mic
could you elaborate?
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Go with the AT 4040 or Shure SM7.

Maybe reconsider the Rode NT1. The high end is very brittle and tinny-sounding. imho

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Well my current mic is an Audio Technica ATM41, so I want my next mic to be a condenser...
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