AT&T Natural Voices -- lisense debacle

[emdot_ambient]

Wouldn't you also need permission from the copyright holder to use Jabberwocky?

Oh, and Jabberwocky is so old it's an out-of-copyright poem and is in public domain now.

[Reverse Engineer]

Have you heard MC Hawking? Hilarious.

Serious? Throw us a link

http://www.mchawking.com

[clueless]

Wouldn't you also need permission from the copyright holder to use Jabberwocky?

Oh, and Jabberwocky is so old it's an out-of-copyright poem and is in public domain now.

so in theory, I could write an identical poem, and copyright it myself?

[emdot_ambient]

Have you heard MC Hawking? Hilarious.

Serious? Throw us a link

http://www.mchawking.com/multimedia.php ... ction=mp3z
They used to have a bunch of the mp3's online for free, now only a few are. Still, check out the lyrics.

I ask Doomsday who the motherfuckers be,
"some punk ass bitches from MIT."
The f**king Institute, man I should've known,
I say meet me at my crib and hang up the phone.
Playtimes over I got a job to do,
and the world will be less crowded by the time I'm through,
and I'll keep rolling while bullets fly,
cause all my shootings be drivebys.

[james0tucson]

1.) I think All of Lewis Caroll's works are in the public domain, so no worries.

Yes, and has been public domain for long enough to not be a concern, the last things being "Two Sunsets", written a few days before he died, and published posthumously.

2.) AFAIK, if you are allowed to download the wav file output from the AT&T site, and you then use it in a free, non-commercial song posted to as yet another (similar to AT&T) website for people to listen to for free, and you at least credit AT&T in the post, then no one would ever object.

I'd let them sue me, if it came to that. The defense that the company suffered no damage would be easy to maintain. I'd make sure a jury had to listen to the voice reciting jabberwocky. (Court costs in my area are equivalent to the price of a round of drinks for your buddies, you are guaranteed a hearing on any question, and guaranteed a jury for any hearing. YMMV).

[emdot_ambient]

Wouldn't you also need permission from the copyright holder to use Jabberwocky?

Oh, and Jabberwocky is so old it's an out-of-copyright poem and is in public domain now.

so in theory, I could write an identical poem, and copyright it myself?

Um . . . sure. But don't quote me on that one.

[james0tucson]

Wouldn't you also need permission from the copyright holder to use Jabberwocky?

Oh, and Jabberwocky is so old it's an out-of-copyright poem and is in public domain now.

so in theory, I could write an identical poem, and copyright it myself?

Well, yeah, but the fact that it's a public domain makes an effective *defense* against your claim of copyright.

[Modeler]

You don't need to buy the dev kit; I bought a program called Text Aloud that uses AT&T's engine plus three voices (including Audrey) for about £40 GBP.

www.nextup.com

[clueless]

Well, yeah, but the fact that it's a public domain makes an effective *defense* against your claim of copyright.

oh but it's an entirely new piece, just with exactly the same words in exactly the same order!

[M'Snah]

You don't need to buy the dev kit; I bought a program called Text Aloud that uses AT&T's engine plus three voices (including Audrey) for about £40 GBP.

www.nextup.com

Yes indeed. I was about to reply the same thing, good thing I read this entire thread.

With this license you can create all the speech you want, let it read your emails, etc. The downside: You get physical shipped CD's, not downloads

[emdot_ambient]

With this license you can create all the speech you want, let it read your emails, etc.

Yes, but does the lisense allow you to PUBLISH material that contains speech derived from the program? That's pro'ly how they get ya.

[M'Snah]

With this license you can create all the speech you want, let it read your emails, etc.

Yes, but does the lisense allow you to PUBLISH material that contains speech derived from the program? That's pro'ly how they get ya.

Good point. I didn't think of that when I replied. I don't find anything about licenses in my ATTNaturalVoices directory... But of course that doesn't mean anything...

[shamann]

Well, yeah, but the fact that it's a public domain makes an effective *defense* against your claim of copyright.

oh but it's an entirely new piece, just with exactly the same words in exactly the same order!

That's not how copyright wroks. But you could write an adaptation and copyright/trademark great portions of it. It is the stuff the Disney empire is built on.

[experimental.crow]

Have you heard MC Hawking? Hilarious.

Serious? Throw us a link

http://www.mchawking.com

if you watch the trailer , you will see our own 'sickle666' on drums , for the 'big bizang' ...

got him nailed , right down to the eyes ...

[Modeler]

With this license you can create all the speech you want, let it read your emails, etc.

Yes, but does the lisense allow you to PUBLISH material that contains speech derived from the program? That's pro'ly how they get ya.

I would assume so. For example, I recorded my voicemail greeting with it. It's non-commercial but it is 'public'. I don't see anything wrong with that but I haven't read the EULA in detail.

If you bought software for your own personal use and choose to use it for commercial purposes, then that's a grey area. Surely AT&T can answer the question. If they're saying that you as an individual have to licence the technology rather than buy the product in order to use it in a track, then that sucks big time.