EnergyXT - the "LIVE" machine
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal
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- KVRian
- 992 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
Laptops work okay for live use as long as it is a robust, well made laptop. Your biggest problem will be damage to the laptop. That, and the obnoxious power supply isolation problem, but worst case that can be dealt with simply by running the laptop on batteries during the gig.Caleb wrote:Does anyone use EnergyXT with a laptop as a live solution? Is it wise? Is it folly?
A recommendation: get a laptop with USB2 or Fireware and use an external USB/Firewire audio interface. Much more reliable than fragile pc cards.
I use a laptop every week during my live show and have found very few issues.
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- KVRist
- 390 posts since 23 Nov, 2004 from Czech Republic
Iam praying for such a moment.guime7000 wrote:I hope the Linux version of eXT is on its way so that I can throw Windows for ever and be sure my computer will never chrash on stage !!!)
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- KVRist
- 285 posts since 17 Mar, 2004 from Denmark
Me to. Got to get rid of ms forever.jura wrote:Iam praying for such a moment.guime7000 wrote:I hope the Linux version of eXT is on its way so that I can throw Windows for ever and be sure my computer will never chrash on stage !!!)
Any more news about the linux version Jorgen?
Not so much a realase date but what will be in it?
I seem to remember it wont run vst (thought some can run on Linux)
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- KVRAF
- 1743 posts since 3 Dec, 2004
why not just build a rack computer with a laptop HD? They have Notebook HD to IDE Converters for like $10...guime7000 wrote:Laptops HDD are much more elaborated to support the stress of road trips......
I thought I could build a home-made PC-rack (as *professional PC-racks are really really expensive), but it's not as easy as I thought, and this wouldn't have resolved the problem of the delicacy of HDD.......
http://www.mp3car.com/store/product_inf ... ucts_id=35
just a thought.
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- KVRAF
- 4878 posts since 13 Jun, 2002 from Montreal
What's the problem with WinXP? If you want perfection, better look elsewhere. It doesn't exist in this dimension.
As it is, it is extremely rare that I have a problem with stability with my Carillon which now is over three years old. When I do have an issue with hosts (unless they are known issues with beta versions for example) it is the fault erroneous install or a poorly coded plugin. DAmn even my good guitar is pronre to be more unpredictable than my PC these days.
Best,
Gordon
As it is, it is extremely rare that I have a problem with stability with my Carillon which now is over three years old. When I do have an issue with hosts (unless they are known issues with beta versions for example) it is the fault erroneous install or a poorly coded plugin. DAmn even my good guitar is pronre to be more unpredictable than my PC these days.
Best,
Gordon
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- KVRist
- 285 posts since 17 Mar, 2004 from Denmark
Just an idea but maybe we can have another thread with "Stable Vst+i for live use.
An idea for taking a back up copy of your hardrive can be enhanced by using a H.caddy.
Then its just a matter of turn off and swap catridges and reboot.
Reminds there was some good advice for live work in SOS a few months back.Great article. The one tip I remember is to take your setup somewhere else and rehearse.
Gets you used to quickly setting up and any other logistical nightmares that can happen on the road.
Oh and always bring two of everything.
Reminds me of a band I saw in the 80,s that used a drummachine. Only thry forgot to get fresh batterys for it so the whole set fell apart
An idea for taking a back up copy of your hardrive can be enhanced by using a H.caddy.
Then its just a matter of turn off and swap catridges and reboot.
Reminds there was some good advice for live work in SOS a few months back.Great article. The one tip I remember is to take your setup somewhere else and rehearse.
Gets you used to quickly setting up and any other logistical nightmares that can happen on the road.
Oh and always bring two of everything.
Reminds me of a band I saw in the 80,s that used a drummachine. Only thry forgot to get fresh batterys for it so the whole set fell apart
Yamaha RM1X,Akai S2000,TQ5,CME UF5,Waldorf blofeld,Compact4,Yamaha A3k, Variax300, Yamaha MU10, Korg Padkontrol,Bidule.UAD1, Liveslice,Delta 1010,Delta 66 x2.
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- KVRAF
- 3002 posts since 24 Nov, 2003 from Heidelberg&Hamburg
Would be nice. But I know some Linux-users (experienced ones) who had terrible pains with it too. It's nonetheless great, but sometimes you have to wait ages until your soundcard is supported too if you can't code yourself.jura wrote:Iam praying for such a moment.guime7000 wrote:I hope the Linux version of eXT is on its way so that I can throw Windows for ever and be sure my computer will never chrash on stage !!!)
Nonetheless, many vst-s already run under Linux I've been told (many not).
Definitely would be great if this came into life... I regretted my Soundforge-update deeply (expensive, buggy, many effects crash it which run without a fault in EXT) and am seriously interested to know more about Linux audio-programs.
Most of my Linux-friends tell me 90% of users are better off with XP or Mac though...
- something special
- 8627 posts since 16 Mar, 2002 from Birmingham, Alabama
I use a laptop for my gig, which is just loading up a set of vst's and playing them from my controller. I was in the process of setting up xt, but loaned my newest laptop to my wife to take on her trip to vurtstock. can't wait to get it back. xp has been extremely reliable; my biggest problem has been remembering to plug the power cord back in between sets to charge the battery.
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- KVRAF
- 2321 posts since 23 Mar, 2004 from Two lower than LS6
I play live in my band using my lappy and energyXT.
dont use the live setup yet as i'm still playing around with it. but anyway

This way i can play synths live (here its just polyiblit) with my midi keyboard and trigger samples using the QWERTY keyboard.

and using the tabs i can have a seperate page for plugin manipulation (UC-16 and the lappys pad thing)
I use a Creative Labs ZS Notebook PCMCIA card, which is excellent (really
) and work off the mains using a DI box with a grounding switch.
When i get round to doing my own solo stuff (
) I will be using the live mode as it looks soooo impressive i will be lost without it!!!
thats me on the far left

dont use the live setup yet as i'm still playing around with it. but anyway
This way i can play synths live (here its just polyiblit) with my midi keyboard and trigger samples using the QWERTY keyboard.
and using the tabs i can have a seperate page for plugin manipulation (UC-16 and the lappys pad thing)
I use a Creative Labs ZS Notebook PCMCIA card, which is excellent (really
When i get round to doing my own solo stuff (
thats me on the far left

Phil
"The fool who persists in his folly will become wise" - William Blake
*No more band for me* | **My Host**
"The fool who persists in his folly will become wise" - William Blake
*No more band for me* | **My Host**
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- KVRAF
- 2427 posts since 13 Sep, 2004
Strange i just finished a plug last night specifically for live use 
I will post a thread about it either tonite or tommorow.
On the issues of laptops mine has just returned after being back to the manufacturer for a new motherboard, I take it everywhere and it gigs everywhere
I will post a thread about it either tonite or tommorow.
On the issues of laptops mine has just returned after being back to the manufacturer for a new motherboard, I take it everywhere and it gigs everywhere
Omerta
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- KVRist
- 423 posts since 22 Jul, 2004
Nice pic Bunnyboy. Nice to hear of someone using eXT live. What does your music sound like?
- GRRRRRRR!
- 17699 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
That has not been my experience at all. A good quality laptop should be more reliable than a tower because its actually designed to be transported. As for USB audio devices, my UA-20 was fantastic and my PCR-1 is every bit as good and both are 100% bulletproof with the latest drivers.Caleb wrote:This sounds good.
I've also heard that laptops are somewhat unreliable in live situations depending on what audio interface you use. Apparently a USB audio interface is not the best idea.
Don't forget, you'll also need to cart and set up a monitor. We went to Europe with my Shuttle only because I don't feel I can justify the expense of a laptop that can't also do my graphics work, putting a solution well out of my price-range. Organising and setting up monitors was a pain in the arse and carrying one was never a decent option.A rack-mounted PC for your live music setup only and a strong audio card seems like the go.
I don't do anything to my standard Windoze install apart from customise the colour scheme and I've never had any problems.Configuring a computer can be the life and death of performance I imagine. So what's a winning formula?
LCD monitors are cheap as chips, look on ebay for a 15".guime7000 wrote:(LCD are expensive and you never know what can happen on stage...)
Pig's arse, they use MacOS because they've always used it and never question its suitability. KMFDM's Powerbooks are sufficiently reliable that they have two on stage in case one falls over. Add the pathetic CPU's they offer when compared to a PC laptop and you would have to be crazy to consider one.(all professional musicians playing with a computer use laptops (mainly MacOS for the stability
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- GRRRRRRR!
- 17699 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
BTW, I assume the new "Live" features are all geared towards dance music? i.e. Live arrangement tools rather than anything that makes it easier to use live in a more rock 'n' roll environment.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron

