a mixing screen?

[kensuguro]

Is it just me? I constantly wished there was some sort of mixing desk where I can set all the levels. Like, I suddendly feel the urge to hit "m" and wished a mixer desk would pop up. lol.

Dunno, maybe this doesn't work with the "one screen for everything" interface idea, but it makes sense to me to think "one screen for most things, and maybe 2-3 other screens for specific work modes". Err, well I guess that would make Tracktion similar to any of the other standard sequencers eh?

I'm okay with how tracktion's filters and faders look like a mixer turned sideways (if you get what I mean). The problem is that the faders and meters are all vertical, where as it would have been much easier to view if they were horizontal. You know, so you can compare between channels and stuff. Either that, or leave the main interface as it is, and make a different "mixer" screen.

Anyone feel the same way?

[ModuLR]

it has been a heatedly debated subject in the past. There are many people would would definately agree with you tho... I've taken the opposite route, and removed the meters all together (go figure.. trying to use my "defective ear method" ), however.. I think horizontal meters that can be locked in size would be fantastic as well.

[koolkeys]

I think that it would be a good idea to maybe make it so that you can select the tracks you want to compare, then hit one button and the bottom middle section turns into a mixer for the tracks you have selected. Nothing extreme, no EQ or anything, just some very simple faders and maybe a VU meter of some kind. I don't know if I'd use it, but it would kind of bridge the gap if you know what I mean.

Koolkeys

[koolkeys]

Here's a basic mockup of what I mean.



This is the best way I can think of without comprimising what Tracktion is.

There would also be a single button to push to get here. And it would cause whatever tracks you have to appear in the window, or maybe just all the tracks with a scroll bar. Anyone else think it's a good idea?

Again, I don't need the mixer, nor would I really use it since I'm used to the way things are, but I know ALOT of people who would like something like this. Also, it should be pretty easy to do using the current graphics.

Koolkeys

[semiquaver]

so you can compare between channels and stuff

why compare gain levels between channels?

[rpc9943]

its an awful idea. i say enough of those things, enough mixing garbage, what we need is a/b of filter presets. so we can set monitor mixes as well as our final mixes. right mackie? right beno? rigjht jules?
yes

RNOC

[braj]

its an awful idea.

You're an aweful idea

[rpc9943]

atleast im not you lool

RONC

[AD80]

Theres a million different things I would want in T before a wannabe mixer. I've never once wished I had a mixer in T. And thats pretty strange considering I came from Cubase, Reason, PT, Acid, all of which have separate traditional mixers. I dont think it would do anything but clutter up the screen and bloat up the prog. Probably even cause slower graphic redraws etc. Just my humble opinion ofcourse.
But, if I was fiendin for a mixer, theres plenty of options out there. Live has a great mixer for example. Why not just use something that has what you need already.

[braj]

lool

RONC

[earthtoclinton]

Personally I would use the mixer and have found myself wanting something like that. I think the mock up picture looks excellent.

[lharless]

Personally I would use the mixer and have found myself wanting something like that. I think the mock up picture looks excellent.

a tiny, scalable mixer section at the bottom, that does not become detatched from the plugin section, would be the ultimate solution. with the option to disable the feature in the settings area or something like that. we wouldn't have to listen to these guys bitch about it being there. they could disable it in settings and not even have to futz with it if it hurts their little eyes and brains. the rest of us get functionality that we're wanting. T2 stays the course with integrity and all are happy.

is this a possibility?

it's quite a nice little idea. i'd be very happy to at least have the option to disable offensive functionality rather than have it excluded all together. that would work into the tracktion ethos.

that little window at the bottom holds more power than you think it does.

[Mr. Tingle]

Why is it important to see the level meters next to each other in a line? I just don't get it

Metering is for seeing if your clipping, other than that you have to listen to the music to work out relative track volumes.

Tracktion is helping the musician move away from linear sound conceptualization by not going down the mixer route, so you can all thank Traction (and Jules) for you improved mixing technique

As ModuLR pointed out, with 32bit/ 64bit internal mixing there is no need for metering AT ALL on each track because of the massive headroom, so really we should be taking away the meters, not putting them in

[lharless]

im gonna say this once again...

it would be better for most of us to be able to have the option to remove functionality than to not have it there at all..

i guess a one time buyer is all that julian expects out of the lot of us? buy it once, see that it limits you and then move on to a more suitable application?

i mean, business is business. this aint a date. it's the software that we make money with. either put the wanted functionality inside, or you will create one time buyers that will move on, and they will tell alot of people about their experience. it won't be good for business.

it's really that simple, i don't care what you're dreams or intentions are.

sorry to be so blunt, but that's life.

[flanneljammies]

Or on the otherhand, users who were attracted to the Tracktion philosophy feel betrayed by feature-bloat and turn to yet a more underground product, where the developer is responsive but doesn't compromise his vision.