YupAD80 wrote:Exactly. Thats kinda how I feel about EXT aswell.JoMal wrote:
I like the eXT sampler a lot. Rough around the edges in some places but the potential is there. Can't beat the price either.
J
It's all about the "vision".J
Extend the functionality of "Tracktion Sampler"?
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- KVRist
- 436 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Bayonne, NJ
It's all about the "vision".J
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- KVRist
- 418 posts since 8 May, 2003 from Somewhere in the triangle...
What I miss the most is auto mapping, where you sellect a bunch of drum hits (one shots) throw them into your sampler and off you go programming beats.
After I ditched my trusted Akai S2000 I've searched high and low and used about any soft sampler I could get my hands on and none of them really satisfied me. I was very happy when Akai annouched their VZ8, but it never saw the light of day.
Do any of you have tips on soft sampers?
After I ditched my trusted Akai S2000 I've searched high and low and used about any soft sampler I could get my hands on and none of them really satisfied me. I was very happy when Akai annouched their VZ8, but it never saw the light of day.
Do any of you have tips on soft sampers?
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- KVRAF
- 1974 posts since 21 Jun, 2002 from Earth
In my last music related creation, I focused on simplifying things. I used the T sampler to handle drum layering... which is something I normally would never do. It kinda felt good in a weird way not having any real control (massocist?). I guess it allowed me to focus on the content. Ultimately, when the "samplers" where rendered, I went back thru and sliced up the render applying envelopes and mild repitching to give it some feel. Probably too painful of a method for many, but I don't mind hand editing...
in any case, for an alternative... Shortcircuit is a great sampler if you want something powerful yet somewhat tracktionesque in it's simplicity. Lots of filters and tons of modulation options... in a very simple interface. Real cool developer too!
in any case, for an alternative... Shortcircuit is a great sampler if you want something powerful yet somewhat tracktionesque in it's simplicity. Lots of filters and tons of modulation options... in a very simple interface. Real cool developer too!
ModuLR / Radio
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- KVRian
- 700 posts since 21 Nov, 2000 from somewhere over the rainbow
No to forget the brand new Paax2
Even the Free version comes with plenty of features (Envelopes, LFO's, Import of SF2 & AKAI 5k/6k)
And definately a better UI than the infamous DS-404!
Even the Free version comes with plenty of features (Envelopes, LFO's, Import of SF2 & AKAI 5k/6k)
And definately a better UI than the infamous DS-404!
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- Banned
- 1842 posts since 4 Aug, 2004 from just right here
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Yes, I would agree to this "Extend the functionality of Tracktion Sampler". It make sence, traction is very modular and routable, so only the essential elements are needed. I havn't used T2 sampler very much because its too limited so far, but this what I think;
- We need the capability of using all the root notes on the keyboard
- We need a ASDR
- We need to be able to set the starting point, end points and loop points
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Yes, I would agree to this "Extend the functionality of Tracktion Sampler". It make sence, traction is very modular and routable, so only the essential elements are needed. I havn't used T2 sampler very much because its too limited so far, but this what I think;
- We need the capability of using all the root notes on the keyboard
- We need a ASDR
- We need to be able to set the starting point, end points and loop points
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- Banned
- 1842 posts since 4 Aug, 2004 from just right here
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I think you can do it, I don't know, what I meant was using every note of the keyboard you want to sample(about 60 on this one here).
For example, CM DS404 can handle at the most 13 mono samples. You load in the samples, set the root note for each sample, its length, any loop points, whether its one shot or continuous, and map out the range on the keybord each sample covers, and thats basicaly it.
The more expensive samplers can, Pax 2 looks like it can, and you can whith creative Vienna soundfont maker, which is not happening at the moment?-oh its painful. But I must say on the filter side....ect on the DS404 is very good.
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I think you can do it, I don't know, what I meant was using every note of the keyboard you want to sample(about 60 on this one here).
For example, CM DS404 can handle at the most 13 mono samples. You load in the samples, set the root note for each sample, its length, any loop points, whether its one shot or continuous, and map out the range on the keybord each sample covers, and thats basicaly it.
The more expensive samplers can, Pax 2 looks like it can, and you can whith creative Vienna soundfont maker, which is not happening at the moment?-oh its painful. But I must say on the filter side....ect on the DS404 is very good.
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- KVRAF
- 2427 posts since 13 Sep, 2004
You can have a single sample per key, If there are 60 keys you can use 60 samples , I think however there are 128 keys wich would be the Midi standard, I emailed Jules a long time ago and he raised the ammount of samples
, I think however there are 128 keys wich would be the Midi standard, I emailed Jules a long time ago and he raised the ammount of samples Omerta
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- KVRist
- 268 posts since 11 Nov, 2003 from kentucky
At the very least, the built in sampler should be improved in the interest of cross-platform compatibility. All of the alternatives mentioned in this thread so far are windows only.
I like the idea of a simple built in sampler and hope that Jules would continue to prioritize simple and low cpu use. I also have chimed in on at least a half dozen threads over the last year about sampler upgrades. So far, there has been no official response from Jules or Mackie that the built in will be expanded. The boxed version seems to support the idea that Tracktion development is content to rely on 3rd party sampler support for basic (and frequent) feature requests like ADSR, layers, one click assign multiple samples across board, pitch shifting etc.
As a point of reference, I like the built in samplers in Ableton Live a little better. There are two: Simpler (for creative sampling) and Impulse (for drum and percussion hits). Both have built in ADSR, good pitch shifting, loop management and very importantly, large individual drag and drop targets for sample assignments. I think this is the right direction for Tracktion's sampler. As a work around, I've been using the free Lite version of Live rewired to Tracktion just for the improved samplers and general pitch shifting. I would much prefer to do this all internally within Tracktion and save the cpu resources required to run two large programs.
I've recommended Tracktion to a lot of people over the last year. Many have been guitar students with no prior experience recording. All love the program and continue to use it. For me, the fact that Tracktion is cross-platform means that I can work with all these musicians regardless of their personal computer choice. That's how it should be.
If Mackie and Jules can't find the resources to develop or buy a better sampler, then I suggest a general call or contest for a 3rd party developer or team to build a better sampler specifically for tight integration with Tracktion.
I like the idea of a simple built in sampler and hope that Jules would continue to prioritize simple and low cpu use. I also have chimed in on at least a half dozen threads over the last year about sampler upgrades. So far, there has been no official response from Jules or Mackie that the built in will be expanded. The boxed version seems to support the idea that Tracktion development is content to rely on 3rd party sampler support for basic (and frequent) feature requests like ADSR, layers, one click assign multiple samples across board, pitch shifting etc.
As a point of reference, I like the built in samplers in Ableton Live a little better. There are two: Simpler (for creative sampling) and Impulse (for drum and percussion hits). Both have built in ADSR, good pitch shifting, loop management and very importantly, large individual drag and drop targets for sample assignments. I think this is the right direction for Tracktion's sampler. As a work around, I've been using the free Lite version of Live rewired to Tracktion just for the improved samplers and general pitch shifting. I would much prefer to do this all internally within Tracktion and save the cpu resources required to run two large programs.
I've recommended Tracktion to a lot of people over the last year. Many have been guitar students with no prior experience recording. All love the program and continue to use it. For me, the fact that Tracktion is cross-platform means that I can work with all these musicians regardless of their personal computer choice. That's how it should be.
If Mackie and Jules can't find the resources to develop or buy a better sampler, then I suggest a general call or contest for a 3rd party developer or team to build a better sampler specifically for tight integration with Tracktion.
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- KVRist
- 436 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Bayonne, NJ
Thanks for pointing that outCrossinger wrote:No to forget the brand new Paax2
Even the Free version comes with plenty of features (Envelopes, LFO's, Import of SF2 & AKAI 5k/6k)
And definately a better UI than the infamous DS-404!
J
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 17 Jun, 2003
Does the free version have velocity layers?JoMal wrote:Thanks for pointing that outCrossinger wrote:No to forget the brand new Paax2
Even the Free version comes with plenty of features (Envelopes, LFO's, Import of SF2 & AKAI 5k/6k)
And definately a better UI than the infamous DS-404!
J
**EDIT** Looks like it does ... "Up to 84 splits per preset and 8 dual velocity-layers (16 samples) per split."
"my gosh it's a friggin hardware"
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- KVRAF
- 3745 posts since 29 Sep, 2002 from Killafornia
I dont think Jules or Mackie should spend any more time trying to refurbish the sampler. It is what it is, and theres soooo many free and commercial options for sampling, I think time could be better spent on other features.
