KVR Audio

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:35 pm

HI

Am I the only 'rambling fool' that continues to be dumbfounded by both Live and Tracktions insistence on NOT having a full screen midi edit view?

I can appreciate how nice it is to have several different areas on screen but however nice it might look - it is not a good limitation to have when carrying out detailed midi editing.

Both these programs (I own one and sold the other through frustration) could really benefit from this one enhancement.

I can only imagine I am in the minority when it comes to needing a large canvas to do my midi work in?

Flipper.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 6:51 pm

Hey Flipper! It is *nearly* possible to full-screen MIDI edit in Live:

You can close the browser, help, and mixer sections using the little icons in the sidebars. Also close unwanted sections of the clip information.

Then you can click and drag the central divider up nearly to the top of the page, leaving almost a full screen MIDI editing piano roll section.

For editing larger MIDI files this is generally effective. Hope this helps.

original flipper · Post by **original flipper** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:01 pm

HI

Yes - been trying out the demo today (I sold V4 a while back!!!) - what I would like to see is (in Tracktion & Live) is a 1 key command to open the bleeder in all it's glory!!! - full screen that is.

Thing is I have started to render a lot of my stuff to audio now, whereas I was previously a run dozens of vst's in realtime kinda guy.

So the audio side of Live is looking increasingly interesting, I would prefer one host does all but perhaps that will take time to evolve in Lives case - still it is otherwise looking good.

EDIT - thanks for that hint - that does almost get me there!
Why don't they put little arrow icons on the GUI - it's amazing how many features that are pretty important to a new user are hidden away in so many hosts!

Flipper.

braj · Post by **braj** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:07 pm

I'd like a key command just to flip the widget and show the editor. I have plenty of space, I have Live set to show the clip nearly full screen, I just still need the mouse to click the triangle.

I think all the interface elements should be able to be mapped in the Key mapping screen. But this is still pretty minor for me.

Beardedone · Post by **Beardedone** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:13 pm

Beardedone wrote:
I got this far but there really are no presets shown in the browser.

We mean thebrowser window on the left hand side of the screen...

Which devices have you tried?

If there are really no presets showing there for some/any of the devices, post your full details (system, OS, etc) on the beta forum here:

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewforum. ... 7f303364ee 196cef622f1af

I have not experienced this problem/cannot confirm.

Yup! I'm a fairly experienced with Live so I know what you are referring to. I have contacte supprt and sent my Log file to the Abletons. I was trying it on my win2K machine first I will try on my WinXp PC tonight.

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:13 pm

christianmusicmaker wrote:Reading through this thread you really do appear to have become somewhat of an expert regarding Ableton Live usage.

Not to mention one of the most active and purposeful beta testers. Amazing. headquest rules.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:53 pm

braj wrote:I'd like a key command just to flip the widget and show the editor. I have plenty of space, I have Live set to show the clip nearly full screen, I just still need the mouse to click the triangle.

I think all the interface elements should be able to be mapped in the Key mapping screen. But this is still pretty minor for me.

That would definitely be nice

. I think a few people have requested more key commands, so I imagine it'll be on the way. Ableton seem more responsive than most when it comes to implementing user requests.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:56 pm

Beardedone wrote: Yup! I'm a fairly experienced with Live so I know what you are referring to. I have contacte supprt and sent my Log file to the Abletons. I was trying it on my win2K machine first I will try on my WinXp PC tonight.

That's cool. Let us know how it goes on XP - works here and I've not seen reports about this on the beta forum. But the really useful thing about having a full-blown public beta is that all sorts of issues can crop up when different system factors come into play.

Good luck!

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:57 pm

Meffy wrote:
christianmusicmaker wrote:Reading through this thread you really do appear to have become somewhat of an expert regarding Ableton Live usage.
Not to mention one of the most active and purposeful beta testers. Amazing. headquest rules.

Aw! Thanks Meffy... that's the nicest post I ever read

You've been pretty purposeful and amazing too

braj · Post by **braj** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 8:50 pm

I only reported one bug (crasher though), does that make me a bad beta tester? Beyond that I haven't seen anything not already found by other testers.

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:27 pm

braj wrote:I only reported one bug (crasher though), does that make me a bad beta tester?

No, it just makes Ableton good programmers

hello1234 · Post by **hello1234** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 10:35 pm

braj wrote:I only reported one bug (crasher though), does that make me a bad beta tester? Beyond that I haven't seen anything not already found by other testers.

Well, I'm new to this beta test, but to be honest I usually can find all the "flaws" really fast.

Not here yet

BTW, what brought your system down?

headquest · Post by **headquest** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 7:48 am

Beta 17 - Release Candidate 2 - now up on the Ableton Site.

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 2abedc2d94

z15 · Post by **z15** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 8:23 am

you should post that full screen midi editor keycommand -thing to requests-forum btw... i think it would be a really good idea too.

silicon/silicium · Post by **silicon/silicium** » Sun Jul 17, 2005 9:24 am

abletons seems ok with bugfixing, but not raelly responsive to features suggestion. for a new version, i don't want bugs, for sure, bur the more new features I ll have, the more happy I ll be to give the money!

Live 5 beta