Tracktion Software

ShaolinDrunkard · Post by **ShaolinDrunkard** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:23 pm

Guys I need some help here with traktion 2.

Fisrt problem, I finally figued out how to record my aucoustic with good sound quality, but the problem is, after Ive recorded my drums, and I want to record the guitar part there is a very noticable delay on the guitar in the headphones. I cant record the guitar part along to the beat of the drums if its delaying like that. I tried muting the guitar trak so I wouldnt hear it through the headphones but I guess you can only mute after youve recorded. So I guess what I'm asking is how can I do this. is there a way I can make it so I only monitor the drum trak?

Next problem, I dont know if its just me or what, I recorded a whole song I already had on my hardware sequencer/synth last week, I recorded from one trak to another, and everything synced up fine. Now, I just went back to record audio from the same sequencer, I can record the first set of drums fine, then when I go back to lay the rest of the drums over top, they dont sync, and on top of that for some reason the tempo readout on my sequencer which is set to accept external clock is jumping around. I have it set to 143 bpms in traktion, but the readout says its floating between 140 and 145, yet the beat is not fluctuating in tempo. I also noticed when I hit play on traktion, sometimes the sequencer will skip bars and jump ahead in the sequence. This puzzles me so. I also had this thing where I had to keep going back and setting the offset to zero, because it was automatically adding an offset,I have no idea where it came from.

Maybe Ive asked for too much help. Anyway anything anyone can throw out there would be appreciated.

mandolarian · Post by **mandolarian** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 11:39 pm

#1) If you're using the 'zero-latency' hardware monitoring option with your sound card, then disable end-to-end in T for that input. Otherwise you'll hear d-d-d-d-d-delay....

#2) Haven't got a simple answer. Perhaps some external sync guru will jump in here. But there are others who have had midi sync issues. The whole master/slave thing is just too kinky for me.

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 3:23 am

Are you using MIDI time code to sync the two sequencers? If so, is Tracktion master or slave? You should check the frame rate is the same on both devices..

ShaolinDrunkard · Post by **ShaolinDrunkard** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:27 pm

No, My hardware sequencer doesnt accept midi time code, only midi clock, but anyways traktion is the master.

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:13 pm

erm.. maybe check your MMC settings are correct?

timecode -> respond to midi machine control from device -> <none>

timecode -> send midi machine control to device -> <choose relevant MIDI out>

and make sure your hardware is set up to respond to MMC..

ShaolinDrunkard · Post by **ShaolinDrunkard** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:08 am

I appreciate your help so far, thanks.

I dont think the sequencer has a setting for MMC, or maybe it doesnt use it.

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:23 am

AFAIK, if the sequencer responds to Tracktion's play & stop commands, it must be using MMC..

valley · Post by **valley** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 3:26 pm

IIRs wrote:AFAIK, if the sequencer responds to Tracktion's play & stop commands, it must be using MMC..

Is that correct? I;d have thought you could achieve the same thing with MTC without the use of MMC. If the Timecode location doesn't change then playback is paused/stopped, and if it does change then playback is active, or the user is scrubbing.

A number of VST plugins do something similar to detect the state of the host transport as many hosts aren't good about telling plugins what is happening at any given time.

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:06 pm

Yeah, but he already said it has no time-code support I think..

IIRs · Post by **IIRs** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:06 pm

ShaolinDrunkard wrote:No, My hardware sequencer doesnt accept midi time code, only midi clock, but anyways traktion is the master.

Mauvehead · Post by **Mauvehead** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:31 pm

Are you by chance creating a MIDI feedback loop? If you have the external hardware sequencer's MIDI I/O both connected to T2 and if you have any recorded MIDI tracks on T2 then check where the routing on those recorded MIDI tracks T2 are heading. If any of those recorded MIDI tracks are routed back out towards the external sequencer besides T2's MIDI clock timing signals then you might be creating a clog if the external sequencer's MIDI in is just passing the signals back out into the MIDI out and consequently back into T2. If this is happening then your tempo will get really whacked and unstable. We ran into MIDI loop problems a few months back in a similar scenario and some tech support finally figured out that we were creating a MIDI feedback loop. The problems you described exactly match what we were having. This may not be the solution but it is worth looking into. Best of luck.

ShaolinDrunkard · Post by **ShaolinDrunkard** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 3:43 am

Actually, that could be it now that I think about it, I'll check it out and get back to you.

Thanks everybody for their help so far.

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